Cacique Caribe | 28 Jun 2012 3:11 p.m. PST |
If so, how "Old West" did you go? In other words, was it mostly an Old West town with a few tech pieces and metal containers here and there*? And did you incorporate any Asian/Chinese pieces? Did you buy most of the structures or make them? Did you buy HO scale? Got any pics for us? Any other tips? Thanks, Dan * I imagine that would make it more versatile, if you wanted the option to have a real Old West game at a later time. TMP link TMP link |
Rrobbyrobot | 28 Jun 2012 4:11 p.m. PST |
I see what you mean. Although I don't game sci-fi, I sure love watching it. Really dig Firefly. Have it on DVD. It's truely a shame it had such a short run. |
RTJEBADIA | 28 Jun 2012 4:27 p.m. PST |
I do some firefly gaming in 15mm but I've had trouble setting up terrain in 15mm in general
Buildings are expensive even in this scale and scratchbuilding is slow and I'm not too good at it
I've looked at paper terrain but haven't committed yet. I'm interested in suggestions
Low price non paper or simple terrain projects in particular
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Cacique Caribe | 28 Jun 2012 5:17 p.m. PST |
At one time I was considering buying a bunch of shallow 1" tall carboard or plastic boxes with separate lids, and then adding styerene clapboard on the sides, with a tall front side. These are a little too low, but they illustrate the more or less the type I was thinking of using: link Hmm. I may need to revisit that crazy idea. If only the interior dimensions were more like 3" x 2" x 1". Dan |
RTJEBADIA | 28 Jun 2012 5:30 p.m. PST |
Those would be good for putting "wallpaper" on
They're cheap, too. |
Cacique Caribe | 28 Jun 2012 5:32 p.m. PST |
And they are hard polystyrene, which means they should take Super Glue just fine. If these had separate lift-up lids instead of hinges they would be just what I was looking for, and the perfect minimum height too (optimum would be a 1.25" interior height): auction What do you guys think? Dan |
Mako11 | 28 Jun 2012 8:01 p.m. PST |
For an open air restaurant, or bar, you could make or purchase some tables and chairs, and add those little Chinese drink umbrellas to them. They're probably good for keeping work areas cooler, on a hot, sunny, desert-planet as well. |
Cacique Caribe | 28 Jun 2012 9:03 p.m. PST |
And a few of these running through Main Street:
Dan TMP link |
Duck Crusader | 28 Jun 2012 9:50 p.m. PST |
RTJEBADIA, use the freeware paper buildings as templates for your platticard/posterboard/whatever buildings. Works like a charm. |
Cacique Caribe | 28 Jun 2012 11:25 p.m. PST |
Does something like this look doable to you guys?
link And I must find me a good 15mm figure for "Badger", fancy hat and all:
Dan TMP link |
BaldLea | 29 Jun 2012 4:17 a.m. PST |
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mxconnell | 29 Jun 2012 9:15 a.m. PST |
Once again CC, your ideas are probably going to cost me some money. I think you are better off going with the cardboard box over the hinged plastic. If this is for Firefly type gaming, I think of it as more skirmish/simple RPG so you are going to want interiors. The plastic hinged boxes would end up being a pain – plus I find the plastic a little brittle. I store miniatures in a larger version and the corners get little cracks with minor transport. Hinges have broken off as well. Lifting off roofs would be easier with the cardboard boxes. I would (will?) go more wild west. I have been looking for as excuse to get a couple of the Blue Moon 15/18mm wild west sets (fairly reasonable if your in the Old Glory Army). Make some SF/asian "accessories" that stay on with magnets (old west accessories to cover the magnets) and you get double duty out of the set. I'm a sucker for double duty. Time to revise the Historicon buy list! Martin |
Cacique Caribe | 29 Jun 2012 9:51 a.m. PST |
LOL. I hate the hinged plastic boxes too. That's why I was looking at the ones with separate lift-off lids, but can't seem to find the ones I would like. Thanks, Dan PS. I absolutely LOVE your idea of using magnets! |
Cacique Caribe | 29 Jun 2012 9:41 p.m. PST |
Of course, places like Eavesdown Docks (on Persephone) didn't have an Old West look at all:
In contrast, the settlements in the Outer Planets had a definite Old West look about them:
link link link link link Dan TMP link |
deviantsaint | 30 Jun 2012 3:02 a.m. PST |
I may be wrong but I think most craft stores have paper "shoebox" style boxes. I think they come in different sizes. Should be perfect for what you're wanting. If you use paper buildings you could just cut and glue to the sides of the boxes. One could even use the boxes to store all the little bits and bobs a town would need. Lovin' the map CC. Might have to steal parts of it
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Cacique Caribe | 29 Jul 2012 3:59 p.m. PST |
I wonder what the typical stages were in the development of an Old West frontier town: TMP link Dan |
Cacique Caribe | 15 Apr 2013 12:29 p.m. PST |
I've just found this drawing and immediately thought it could be a doable project, with SF accessories here and there:
link What do you guys think? Would that work on a 2' by 4' board? By the way, this would make a cool SF horse, don't you think? link TMP link Dan TMP link |
krimso | 16 Apr 2013 6:42 a.m. PST |
I think there would be plenty of room on a 2' by 4' board to pull of a small town like that and to have some terrain left on the outskirts of town. Perhaps one or two buildings could be more metal or "sci-fi" and create a nice contrast. Maybe even a modest space-port outside of town? |
Cacique Caribe | 16 Apr 2013 9:35 a.m. PST |
Thanks! I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to even place a minimal town in that space. Well, I've gone ahead and ordered a few "Western" buildings in HO scale from ebay. I might cover some of their surfaces with styrene corrugated and other metal surfaces, just to create that new-old blend. Can't wait to see how the HO buildings look when I get them. Dan |
Cyclops | 16 Apr 2013 1:34 p.m. PST |
Just get some of the GZG bits like solar panels, comms dishes etc. link You can leave them loose. Just add to any old west building when you want to SF it up a bit. And you still have the building for actual old west games. These are good to drop on a roof as well. link |
RTJEBADIA | 16 Apr 2013 6:06 p.m. PST |
I think 2' by 4' is just right for that town and a little surrounding terrain. I think adding in SF elements subtly will be the key to making it work, though, or else it ends up just looking like a western town. |
War Monkey | 16 Apr 2013 8:48 p.m. PST |
Here is something that may help, may keep cost down as well then a lot of HO buildings, you will have to resize them for scale for size erichotz.com/whitewash.html rescaleing them by reduseing size to 50% just found this info on their site |
Tehakla | 17 Apr 2013 2:30 p.m. PST |
Could also mix in a few of these: link there are potentially plans for Asain inspired buildings too.
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War Monkey | 17 Apr 2013 7:03 p.m. PST |
Western style building from whitewash and then doctor them up using the information in this pfd PDF link @ CC you had this posted on another thread. Its the way I would go myself, little more work, but it would keep cost down, I would build the the main buildings just as basic boxes or container like, this way I coud use them for other gaming needs and use detachable western store fronts, (flat magnets as an idea) which I could store flat when not needed |
War Monkey | 20 Apr 2013 12:31 p.m. PST |
Might need some thing to fill up those buildings link |
Cacique Caribe | 20 Apr 2013 12:41 p.m. PST |
War Monkey, That last link has some really nice stuff! I've already added them to my shopping list. And, about the second to last link, I forgot where I had posted it. Thanks so much for finding it! Dan |
War Monkey | 21 Apr 2013 9:26 p.m. PST |
Well thinking it's a space town on the edge of civilization you have to have some space junk just laying around on the sides of the streets and in the alleys
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Cacique Caribe | 21 Apr 2013 10:27 p.m. PST |
It would be so cool if someone came up with piles of tech junk, like broken computers and other advanced devices! Dan |
Cacique Caribe | 22 Apr 2013 5:41 p.m. PST |
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Cacique Caribe | 23 Apr 2013 5:23 a.m. PST |
Here are some old but cool suggestions: TMP link Dan |
War Monkey | 23 Apr 2013 4:11 p.m. PST |
I was poking around on the site that clkegels posted and saw this and the locamotive engine with some wires and bits could work up to be an old ships engine part
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War Monkey | 24 Apr 2013 8:46 a.m. PST |
could be a town for Firefly or PA
note the train in the background |
War Monkey | 24 Apr 2013 8:10 p.m. PST |
Ghost of Hefei has these signs posted for free down load on their kickstarter, for the china town part of town
link |
War Monkey | 24 Apr 2013 8:19 p.m. PST |
add some paper lamps like these
scroll down about have way link |
Cacique Caribe | 24 Apr 2013 9:43 p.m. PST |
Wow!!! Cool suggestions there. Thanks so much. By the way, where did you find the fort-like settlement pic three posts back? Dan |
War Monkey | 24 Apr 2013 10:10 p.m. PST |
Google? town post apocalyptic link |
War Monkey | 24 Apr 2013 10:30 p.m. PST |
Here You go this might inspire you
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War Monkey | 24 Apr 2013 10:51 p.m. PST |
This site has free printable stuff imperiuswargaming.wordpress.com cardboard boxes, and shanties which one could use the sheet metal stuff to cover other paper moleds, and the boxes make for great frieght stuff just get some square wood dowels and wrap them around the wood I would think P.S. there 28mm so you would have to resize them |
War Monkey | 25 Apr 2013 4:31 p.m. PST |
OK what is depending on size of gaming table space port at one end and sea port at the other
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Cacique Caribe | 26 Apr 2013 8:31 a.m. PST |
Amazing stuff. And those "Oilrush" pics are truly inspiring, specially for this other gaming concept: TMP link TMP link TMP link Dan |
War Monkey | 26 Apr 2013 9:27 a.m. PST |
Well I was just thinking that for those who play RPGs it would make for a great base to play from, wharf at one end town, couple of barges a SCI-FI style ship or two, maybe a small waterway for a couple of small boats and a walking bridge, in the middle the main town with a couple of skyways maybe, an elevated railway cutting thru with a means to load freight different sections for different groups or aliens and the space port at the other end landing pads and all the equipment and freight, scrap yard containers and alike . Adds up to lots of gaming options and plots I know it's all base on the gaming area one has to use as well, My self I have a 3'x6' table so yes it would be tight may have to play different sections of this kind of town at time For me it's sounding like a great project to work on. |
War Monkey | 27 Apr 2013 12:56 p.m. PST |
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Cacique Caribe | 27 Apr 2013 2:45 p.m. PST |
Guys, For making debris piles in the corridors, check these out
Plastic canvas pieces (granny grating), 7, 10 and 14 mesh:
Lego bits:
Scrap polystyrene pieces and plasticard punch outs:
Bits from pens, mechanical pencils, screws and screw anchors:
Assorted pieces from drawer organizer, drink stirs, brand new (unused) ear scope tips, and lots of other scrap:
Cookie trays that will be chopped for their moulded bits:
LOTS more pics: link So, what do you guys think? Thanks, Dan TMP link |
War Monkey | 27 Apr 2013 5:37 p.m. PST |
I really like what you have going on there, can't wait to see what you come up with |
War Monkey | 05 May 2013 9:03 p.m. PST |
Okay, I know this is in 28mm but seems likely to be used in 15mm link link could be worked ino a town of sorts |
War Monkey | 08 May 2013 9:26 a.m. PST |
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Cacique Caribe | 08 May 2013 9:48 a.m. PST |
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War Monkey | 08 May 2013 10:22 a.m. PST |
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War Monkey | 09 May 2013 7:54 p.m. PST |
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infojunky | 10 May 2013 4:35 p.m. PST |
Do you mean Old West, i.e. shanty towns that are built with common victorian materials and stylings. Or the the stylized Old West that gets built now? I tend to go for the nuevo Shanty town/favela/interstitial Slum look over the ritualized "Old West" in that in a SF game modern materials will be more prevalent than the victorian materials. Lots of prefab buildings for the substantial buildings instead of the brick/wood of the old west. |