"Stalin's Half man Half Ape Warrior project" Topic

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What figures could we use for this historical project that has nothing to do with any feature films whatsoever?

Weird indeed!
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Eurekas boiler suit apes have AK's.

Eureka's equipment is less ideal for pulp era. I know, I know, this is pulp so don't worry about it, but if I am going to put Stalin's monkey soldiers on teh table, they will have Pulp era weapons

Would there be enough interest in these guys for a Eureka 150 club?

Have any of you ever read "Weirdo" magazine, edited by the famous underground cartoonist Robert Crumb? (I used to read stuff like this when I was younger. I didn't necessarily take it seriously.)

A lot of weird stuff showed up in "Weirdo" (appropriately enough!) One issue featured a sample of the "scientific" writings and illustrations of a European author, who was especially interested with inter-species relations between man and apes (including creatures like yeti or sasquatch). I only remember this article vaguely, so I can't tell you too much. But this guy was certain that some humans, particularly the Russians, had "known" such creatures and created offspring. Therefore, there are pure and not-so-pure humans running around in this world of ours. It was pretty outlandish stuff, to say the least.

Again, please don't think I take this stuff too seriously. But when I saw this thread, I couldn't help but remember this crazy stuff I'd read back in the 80s.

What about Uruk-Hai heads on larger scale Russian soldiers?

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Commie man apes versus nazi zombies. Who would win?

The heads of the bare-headed ones here could work:
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanzee
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Weird stuff.

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Reaper or other Neanderthal heads, perhaps?

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How many flippin threads on this do we need? been done before.

"Commie man apes versus nazi zombies. Who would win?"

I'm betting man-ape zombies overrun the world in that scenario. :)

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My question was more about figure ideas and less about the issue behind it. It becomes a conversion issue, then I probably would sit on the sidelines, my conversion skills cannot match the sculpting skills of the scuptors at large.

Jlundberg,

Don't give up on the idea of the conversions:

1) Do you already have suitable Russian troops for that period? If they are slightly larger than the other troops, the better.
2) How many were you thinking of having?

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Shoot me an email: daniel DOT Martinez1 AT sbcglobal Dot net

We will be doing these miniatures. Right now we are working on Rules for AE and we are thinking of having a Russian list included in the first book. ;)

Cheers,
Robert

Robert,

Are your figures metal or plastic?
Also, what is "AE" exactly?
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Cacique Caribe the AE miniatures are metal multi part miniatures. AE is Alternate Events World War II. Part of the AE background for the Russian Faction covers the creation of the Apemen Troops. Very cool stuff. Background written by C.L.Werner. For further info on the AE world you can check out the Forum at

darksondesigns.proboards21.com

Cheers,
Robert

Cacique Caribe: I like your idea of Urukai heads….. which company makes largish russians?

I think you would get even more input if this thread was cross-posted to scifi, wwii, even fantasy.

Anyway, imagine this head on a Russian:
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What about these Russians?
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These have nice bare heads too:
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Here is some inspiration:

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I dunno.

If "Ligers" (Lion/Tiger mix) are an indication of what happens when you create hybrids, I would expect that a Human/Ape hybrid would be very big, like the Uruk-Hai:

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"I HATE every chimp I see, from chimpan-A to chimpanzee!"

As they probably wouldn't see action before the late 1940's, I'd still use Eureka's boiler suits. In fact I'd use them together with Eureka's NBC-suit 80's soviets.

Also depends on what you use them with. If you have highly detailed russian human figures, you could use another brand of more cartoonish russians and paint them with odd skincolour.

i.e. Blacktree humans with Chiltern monkeymen.

hmmm

The wheels are turning.

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I caught a bit of South Park recently and they had former VP Gore hunting the elusive Man Bear Ape…

I caught a bit of South Park recently and they had former VP Gore hunting the elusive Man Bear Ape…

No, I think it was the Man Bear Pig. Or was than Man-BearPig? or ManBear-Pig? Half man, half bear, half pig
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Excellsior!

Interesting movie photo with this article:

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I always thought that the Sliders' Kromaggs looked like Russian-ape hybrids:

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Very weird data here:

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Definitely food for (sci-fi) thought.

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David Brin's "uplifted" species:

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When I finish the rest of my ape heads next week, it might be the first step to answering the question about figures (provided someone makes largish Soviets you feel inclined to behead):

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Fingers crossed. Photos will be updated Monday or Tuesday, at the latest.

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Some photos in.

Let me know what you think of this so far:

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First, there were THREE . . .

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But now there are FOUR MORE!!!

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Please let me know what you think of this new batch.

Thanks.

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<<First, there were THREE . . .

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But now there are FOUR MORE!!!

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Please let me know what you think of this new batch.

Thanks.

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Oh, so THAT is why there's still no ENTELODONTS!!!

Nice work, CC…

Leland R. Erickson
Metal Express
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P.S. Where's their mandatory Red Army issue schlem with red star?

"Make my day, Human!!!"

Here are a few shots of a second-generation head (this one with proper skull and facial structure, but was still VERY oversized).

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Don't worry. I have already started on a new set of heads that are definitely more proportional.

However, I thought you would like to see what an Ape head on a Warzone figures could look like.

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Of course, Stalin wasn't the first to think about this . . .

"In fact, the apes live with us, and have for many ages. We call them the first men--we speak their language quite as much as we do our own; only in the rituals of the temple do we make any attempt to retain our mother tongue. In time it will be forgotten, and we will speak only the language of the apes; in time we will no longer banish those of our people who mate with apes, and so in time we shall descend to the very beasts from which ages ago our progenitors may have sprung."
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CC,

given the differences in physical strength, IMHO the appropriate weapon for these ape soldiers would be some sort of sadaptation of the 14.5mm PTRS or PTRD anti-tank rifle with a shortened barrel….

Leland R. Erickson
Metal Express
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What do you guys thingk?

Would it make more sense to go chimp-human than gorilla-human?

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Chimp may be easier since they are closer DNA wise

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Check out these images. I just found them, but thought you might like them:

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Check out these hybrids:

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Personally, you create a more aggressive and resourceful hybrid, although smaller-framed, if it was human-chimp and not human-gorilla.

Chimps are the most aggressive of the great apes. They love to hunt monkeys and have even been known to eat enemy chimps.

The aggressive tendencies have now sparked some chimp groups to create weapons, such as spears, to further accomplish their goals:

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Gorillas and Orangutans haven't developed hunting weapons because they don't have that aggressive drive, even though they live in similar environments, have monkeys and other vulnerable creatures around and are under similar habitat pressures.

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Did you guys watch the MonsterQuest episode on Stalin's Ape Men?

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You guys might also enjoy these images:

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Dan
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In case anyone needs some inspiration for this project, I've started an album with lots of images:

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Dan
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