"Looking For "Real" UFO Extraterrestials?" Topic

And, by "real", I simply mean those reported by "real people" during the last century or so.

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So few non-humanoids, right? Most seem to be bipedal, with two arms, two legs, etc.

Anyway, enjoy.

Dan

Well that design might be a universal constant … since it seems to work …

What did you think of the "Earth Vs The Hairy Dwarves"?

Dan

Well … they are "humanoid" …

LOL. My humanoid comment was just an observation on the one thing they have in common. :)

The main thing is that there seem to be so, so many races of aliens, all aparently interested in Earth and us puny humans.

Dan

They may be trying to appear somewhat similar. I remember the guy (the name escapes me at the moment) who wrote the 2001 movie stateing that if extra terrestrials were around, we would've picked them up on radar. Then we came up with stealh tech.

And another that said they would grow old and die before they got here. But now we know it's possible to live forever with DNA alterations. Imagine being 50,000 years old? I'm betting it would get pretty boring after awhile, and exploring the galexy would be a fun thing to do, especially if it only took 10 or 20 thousand years for a mission.

And since you can alter your DNA, why not make yourself somewhat similar to the creatures you are intending to study.

And it would'nt be any fun to let them know we are here, so let's mess with them for at least 10,000 years or so.

I'm just saying……

We only get visited by the humanoids. Aliens are investigating our military bases only because they want to see what those $75 USD toilet seats look like. Of course the non-humanoids don't care.

In all those drawings, I can see about 20 different races.

I think it would be funny to know, other than our militaty's toilet seats, our cattle and rectums, what could possibly bring in explorers from 20 different worlds. What could be worth all that trouble to get??? :)

Dan

Arthur C. Clark wrote 2001 …

Of course, if you want the real scoop on ET's one need look no further that the History Channel.

"I remember the guy (the name escapes me at the moment) who wrote the 2001 movie stateing that if extra terrestrials were around, we would've picked them up on radar"

Carl Sagan in one of his books does some basic maths extrapolation based on the number of Americans who believe they've been abducted and concludes that the skies over the US should be full enough of UFOs that it would be difficult to fly our aircraft around without hitting them.

Ah heck, my cup runneth over…

moonhippie3 03 Apr 2011 8:59 a.m. PST:

I remember the guy (the name escapes me at the moment) who wrote the 2001 movie stateing that if extra terrestrials were around, we would've picked them up on radar. Then we came up with stealh tech.

Our stealth tech isn't completely radar invisible tho, and it's certainly not like Star Trek cloacking technology that would make one's ships completely invisible even in space.

And another that said they would grow old and die before they got here. But now we know it's possible to live forever with DNA alterations.

Do we now?

And since you can alter your DNA, why not make yourself somewhat similar to the creatures you are intending to study.

I'm inclined to wonder as to why aliens that would not want to show themselves publicly wouldn't make themselves completely similar instead of vaguely and freakishly so. Wouldn't that save trouble? Do you figure they are almost but not quite good enough to manage looking completely human?

And it would'nt be any fun to let them know we are here, so let's mess with them for at least 10,000 years or so.

How many xenoc species you figure there are buzzing around Earth, bothering our cattle and stomping on our crops or whatever it is you are thinking they do for excrement and laughing with repeated short, spasmodic sounds?

Who knows, ETs "beings" are probably remotes designed and built by some mothership AI. Flesh? Who needs that?

"Encounter constructs" idea has bee floated by UFOlogists once in a while and indeed some reported cases would seem to fit robots (and not exceedingly clever ones either) better than biological sapients.

We all know martians at least look very similar to us men, just without a dangly bit at the top of the legs, and two protusions on their chest. At least, I'm pretty sure they must be martians or some form of ET as I can never understand them. A lot of them look very nice though.

Separated at birth/hatching?

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I wonder if the clay figurine is an actual museum artefact, and not something made just to prove an ancient alien theory.

Does anyone know where it is really kept? And, are there more pictures of it?

Dan

Yeah … the History Channel has the best Alien/Ancient Alien intel … Not real history, should be on the Sci-fi Channel, IMO … But I find it entertaining. Better than fat guys driving around big trucks in the snow, Rednecks in the Bayou getting bit by gators, ers driving around in an old van looking for junk, etc., etc. …

Not to hijack the thresd, but…

Pawn Stars and American Pickers at talk about the history of the artifacts with which they deal. That's presenting "history" to the masses in the same way that Mythbusters presents analytical reason and science. A spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down, as Mary Poppins would says.

HOWever, I just can't rationalize the alien, trucking and axing shows. Bring back R. Lee and his wonderful toys. Bring back the historical movies with the breaks in which historians talk about the events depicted and historicity of the film. At this point I'd even prefer the endless WWII programs. Just bring back SOMETHING that has something to do with HISTORY.

<<sigh>>

"We are from France…"

Like I said, I like to watch the History Channel programs on Ancient Aliens, Aliens, UFOs, etc. … But they should be on the Sci-fi Channel … Some of the "best" intel out there … you want to know about that kind of stuff … it's out there, on not only the Sci-fi Channel … but the History Channel … And yes … let's get Gunny back !!

There are no aliens in America except illegal ones. Living beings from other worlds may very well exist, but the distances between any possibly inhabited worlds and ours makes interplanetary travel impractical if not impossible. In short, they can't get here from there. (-:

billthecat you made me laugh!

The Shadow there are plenty of legal aliens here too. We give them documents and everything.

Shadow …They can't get here … yet … or at least based on our limited understanding of physics, science, etc. …
They may have been here and gone and back again …

Or, as a buddy once told me, they don't come from another galaxy, they come from the future, where genetic engineering is as easy as pie.

Dan

I'm partial to "them" being Molemen from Earth's core, myself…

>>Shadow …They can't get here … yet … or at least based on our limited understanding of physics, science, etc. … <<

Albert Einstein, who i'm told was a very very smart guy, theorized that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light and since the closest possible solar systems that *might* include inhabited planets are light years away that means they can't get here from there. Is he right? (shrug) I dunno, but without getting into a deep discussion, i'm just going to go with Al on this one. (-:

We all know martians at least look very similar to us men, just without a dangly bit at the top of the legs

Aliens are humanoid because crash test dummies are humanoid.

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Now a days everyone knows about crash-test dummies, but not so in the 1950's. If that humanoid thing doesn't really look human then it must be an alien. Even today people question why a crash test dummy would be found at a crash site.

Dummies may not necessarily look exactly human because their primary purpose may be the measurement of dynamics.

Then again, maybe aliens created crash test dummies in their own image and the first crashes were simply alien tests???

I'm afraid I'm with the Shadow on this one.

The impossibility of faster-than-light travel is the major buzzkill of physics that strips out the science from science fiction and reduces most alien contact stories to wishful thinking (i.e., fantasy). I wish it could be otherwise. It is barely possible that extremely long-lived, patient, and economically extravagant aliens might be willing to spend a good 40 years in some sort of vessel traveling constantly at near light speed to make the trip, but I fail to see what would attract them toward Earth in the first place. There's no percentage in it. Sigh.

Mulligan

Chris PzTp,

The fascination with humanoid aliens goes a lot further into the past than the crash-test dummies of the 50s.

Here is a funny tale of God-fearing 19th century humanoid aliens:

"A number of strange people emerged from the car, which was closely curtained with a substance that fairly glistened in the sunshine that temporarily burst through the obscuring clouds, and all going to the big, flowing spring, knelt by it in a supplicating attitude and so remained for a minute or more. Mr. Stephenson says that while this was going on he sat quietly within speaking distance, and when the strange visitors arose to their feet and he supposed their devotional excercises were over, he asked if he might be permitted to inquire who they were, and what their mission? He said that instantly a visard was lifted by one of the company and the benign face of a lady showed from underneath and said in German: "Haben sie Beten?" (did you pray?") and instantly all were aboard, the airship rose, circled about for a minute or more, and was gone in a westerly direction."
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More humanoid travelers:

"During this same month (April 1897), in Missouri, on a lonely road near Springfield, a traveling salesman named William Hopkins was driving his wagon when he suddenly saw an airship on the ground -- and two nude aliens! Hopkins lovingly described the nude female alien, saying she was "dressed in nature's garb." He described the male as a super-Grecian Adonis.
Hopkins later wrote a letter to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, wherein he mentions having kissed both of the alien's hands. Apparently, the three tried to communicate with one another. According to Hopkins, they were partially successful."
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More strange stuff (warning: background victorian music):

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Who knew, right? Too much absinthe? :)

Dan
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CC: "Or, as a buddy once told me, they don't come from another galaxy, they come from the future, where genetic engineering is as easy as pie."

I think this one of the online articles he showed me:

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I think that the 2002 movie Signs may have touched on the reason behind all these theories:

Merrill: Morgan, this crop stuff is just about a bunch of nerds who never had a girlfriend their whole lives. They're like thirty now. They make up secret codes and analyze Greek mythology and make secret societies where other guys who never had girlfriends can join in. They do stupid crap like this to feel special. It's a scam. Nerds were doin' it twenty five years ago and new nerds are doing it again.
Graham Hess: Its just static, Morgan. Frequency.
[Weird noises come from the baby monitor]
Morgan: It's a code.
Bo: Why can't they get girlfriends?
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Dan

Yeah, but in the middle of the 20th century the stories bacame much more frequent and much more more consistant.

Unless the aliens are going to give me superpowers, the winning number for the next lottery, and make me 22 and sexy again (that might fall under superpowers…) who CARES if aliens are real or not?

Bills still gotta be paid, man.

Sure Shadow and Mulligan … tell all that to the aliens that land in my backyard !!!!!

Yeah, but in the middle of the 20th century the stories bacame much more frequent and much more more consistant.

Or our mass media made them more popular, and spread around more, introducing them into the subconscious.

Stories of UFO abductions often mirror stories of faerie kidnappings from the distant past, weird lights and noises in secluded places, etc.

And now, back to our regularly scheduled program …

What other compilation of descriptions of alleged extraterrestrials have you guys found online, that are based on what witnesses have reported to authorities and media?

Thanks,

Dan

"Albert Einstein, who i'm told was a very very smart guy, theorized that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light"

That's not quite what it says. It says that nothing with a rest mass can be accelerated to, or travel at, C. Or even more accurately "local C".

>>That's not quite what it says. It says that nothing with a rest mass can be accelerated to, or travel at, C. Or even more accurately "local C".<<

Are you saying that something *can* travel faster than the speed of light?

Let's not debate the possibility of ET FL travel. This is for the purposes of pushing little lead figures around a board.

The topic is "Looking For "Real" UFO Extraterrestials" and the first line was: "and by "real", I simply mean those reported by "real people" during the last century or so". So Mulligan's and my own reply were completely in context with the subject.

OK, a side note, but it had be argued that (because of the FTL barrier, the immense unlikelihood to 'run into' an inhabited planet &c…) UFO were not of ET but of Endo-Terrestrial origin. Atlants surviving in cave complexes, Agartha, this kind of thing.
Btw it's the only 'credible' (well…) explanation of so closely humanoid UFO crews.

abdul666lw,

I like that idea a lot:

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Could make for lots of cool gaming.

Dan