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Cacique Caribe08 Nov 2007 9:27 p.m. PST

OK. Bear with me on this . . .

* What if there has already been an evolutionary offshoot of humanity?

* What if that new branch of humanity prefers warmer temperatures and higher concentrations of greenhouse gases?

* What if they were already working on "terraforming" Earth (yes, redundant phrase) to conform to their preferences AND to slowly nudge the rest of us out of existence?

Though the film "The Arrival" deals with aliens making such an effort, the idea of an evolutionary branch of humanity sounds more acceptable to me.

QUESTION: Could this become an appealing premise for any sort of gaming, conspiracy RPG, or such?

CC
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aercdr08 Nov 2007 10:57 p.m. PST

It would explain a lot.

Alxbates08 Nov 2007 11:01 p.m. PST

Could be…

Cacique Caribe08 Nov 2007 11:10 p.m. PST

For a game, guys, for a game!

CC

Covert Walrus09 Nov 2007 12:00 a.m. PST

Not a bad idea for a game or otherwise CC. Of course, there would be some obvious biological differences in this offshoot, so they would look pretty conspicuous. . . .

Cacique Caribe09 Nov 2007 12:18 a.m. PST

Any suggestions on what those differences might be?

If they were plainly visible, they would not be able to do their covert work though.

CC

Trapondur09 Nov 2007 12:37 a.m. PST

If it is, then I'm certainly a Neanderthal, so to speak, as I loath heat, summer, and sun. I'm a late fall to early spring kind of guy.

tnjrp09 Nov 2007 12:54 a.m. PST

And I must be the camouflaged version of the "new breed" since I SO hate the cold… Therefore with me as an assumed early generation mutant, how about: bald, tall, thin (I wish!) to star with, then add lots of veins near the surface of the skin and maybe some nocturnal adaptations (mostly so that you can get around dark skintone to paint the veined skin) such as "cat eyes"?

tnjrp09 Nov 2007 12:57 a.m. PST

Darn, pressed submit too early… So that's for the look part.

For the RPG, you don't obviously need the pale skin tone but still it could be used to liken these "hotties" to vampires or some such for added confusion and paranoia factor.

For a wargame, I suppose a standard gang fight thing with some skrewy weather and terrain effects (remember that global warming is assumed to cause extreme weather) thrown in would be the way to go.

General Montcalm09 Nov 2007 1:58 a.m. PST

My boss is one.

Waco Joe09 Nov 2007 7:45 a.m. PST

I for one welcome our new greehouse gas loving overlords:

link

on second thought, maybe not.

lugal hdan09 Nov 2007 8:38 a.m. PST

On danger of getting dawghoused or CA'ed:

(Remember, THIS IS JUST A GAME IDEA, etc., etc.)

What if the people of Saharan Africa were that new breed of man, and they've been slowly trying to spread desert like conditions. The "Ice Agers" (us) are fighting a secret war against them (the so-called "Hot War"), but covering it up as local unrest and plague. Other Ice Agers are supporting the NewBreed financially, either unaware of the true stakes or bought off in some way.

Buck21509 Nov 2007 8:46 a.m. PST

lugal hdan's idea goes beyond a game and into the short story or novel idea. "The Arrival" film aside, lugal hdan should run with the premise and expand it into a fascinating novella. Give it a try- put it down on paper and let people read it. As I said, it would be fascinating.

Redroom09 Nov 2007 8:55 a.m. PST

I think the next people would:

Live in jungle areas or highly populated/polluted areas.
Would wear heavier clothes as they like the heat and such.
Would be as "driven" as Greenpeace, but in the opposite direction. Greenpeace could actually be a covert government agency opposed to the nexts. Al Gore is their head (shudder :0) with the government not trying to let the populace know about the nexts in fear of worldwide panic, etc… You could put in some good conspiracy plots in here…

Cacique Caribe09 Nov 2007 9:08 a.m. PST

Lugal Hdan,

CA possibilities aside, it would definitely fit in with the current "Out of Africa" theories, where each successive evolutionary offshoot originates from that continent!

CC

Klebert L Hall09 Nov 2007 9:49 a.m. PST

For a game, sure.

Otherwise, you'd have to be talking about *really* higher temperatures / atmospheric gasses – humans are adaptable critters, little things like +/- 20 degrees or 1% CO2 aren't going to kill us off.
-Kle.

Detailed Casting Products09 Nov 2007 11:10 a.m. PST

Do it in the future, several hundred years hence. The poles have melted into a temperate environ and the surviving Homo sapiens have fled to the poles. The separate Nation-States of New Arctica and New Atlantis (Antarctica) are bracing for a fresh series of raids from the agressive and dominant Homo aequatoris. Things are looking bleak for Homo sapiens and that's when the ETs show up. But who are they going to ally with? Maybe none, and they want the Earth all to themselves?

Note to Michael Crichton: This is mine! Keep away! wink

Cacique Caribe09 Nov 2007 6:31 p.m. PST

"The poles have melted into a temperate environ and the surviving Homo sapiens have fled to the poles."

"Homo aequatoris"

Oooooo, I really, really like that!!!!!

CC

Cacique Caribe09 Nov 2007 6:55 p.m. PST

DCP, imagine troops like this:

picture

CC

Detailed Casting Products10 Nov 2007 12:00 a.m. PST

Looks good. Reminds me of "Master Chief" a bit, even though I've never played the game.

Covert Walrus10 Nov 2007 6:46 a.m. PST

CC, assuming a very great temperature increase on the line sof the Permian age, the Nexts would require some extensive cooling structures for themselves, and a large lung capacity even if they are not aquatic. My pick would be barrel chested humans, with large noses that are either hairy in nature or perhaps with closable nostrils like a camel; Perhaps the head would be different in shape to accomodate larger sinus cavities to lose heat with in these cases.

Crusoe the Painter10 Nov 2007 10:03 a.m. PST

Obviously Gingers.. Pale skin, sensitivity to pain, can't go out in the sun… ;)

AndrewGPaul10 Nov 2007 2:07 p.m. PST

Cacique, if you're looking for 'evolved human' ideas, you might want to look at Stephen Baxter's Flux, Coalescent or some of his short stories for ideas. Most of them are a bit more … out there … than simply having a higher preferred temperature, though.

LTC Fraiser10 Nov 2007 5:28 p.m. PST

And here poor Al Gore thinks its our fossil fuel burning ways heating up the planet. I think that chap's in for a bit of surprise once the veil is lifted off of Homo Superior, eh?

lugal hdan12 Nov 2007 4:30 p.m. PST

We can't move North, the Sasquatch will get us.

Mavrides25 Nov 2007 10:05 a.m. PST

I have to admit this sounded like a really dumb thread…but it got better- great ideas here

Cacique Caribe17 Dec 2007 9:19 p.m. PST

About "Dominants":

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominants

Other mutant types:

link

CC

The Shadow18 Dec 2007 12:52 a.m. PST

>QUESTION: Could this become an appealing premise for any sort of gaming, conspiracy RPG, or such?<

Question: What the hell does this have to do with gaming in the "pulp magazine" era?

Question: "Conspirarcy Rpg"?????

Question: "Any sort of gaming"? I thought this was a group for "pulp" gaming? Shouldn't we try to stay on topic?

Cacique Caribe18 Dec 2007 10:16 a.m. PST

"Question: What the hell does this have to do with gaming in the "pulp magazine" era?"

I guess you are the type that thinks that terraforming can be done overnight.

CC

Cacique Caribe18 Dec 2007 10:23 a.m. PST

"Question: 'Conspirarcy Rpg'?????
Question: 'Any sort of gaming'? I thought this was a group for 'pulp' gaming? Shouldn't we try to stay on topic?"

I guess you are not aware of the cross-posting feature for topics that could apply to more than one group.

CC

The Shadow18 Dec 2007 11:14 a.m. PST

"I guess you are not aware of the cross-posting feature for topics that could apply to more than one group."

I'm aware.

Cacique Caribe18 Dec 2007 11:26 a.m. PST

Just trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.

CC

wminsing20 Dec 2007 12:31 p.m. PST

<<We can't move North, the Sasquatch will get us>>

Don't worry, I'll put in a good word with my people.

-Will

The Shadow20 Dec 2007 6:36 p.m. PST

>Just trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.<

Thanks, but I don't need it. All that you're saying is that you've crossposted from a group where the message applies to a group where it's off topic. Not that I mind an off topic discussion that much, it's just that this group appears to be off-topic heaven and I got fed up with it. I mean, Jeez man!, we've even got a long topic going about "Tunnels and Trolls". I know that the majority of the posters in this group don't know *anything* about the "pulp magazine" era, but I'm sure that *you* know better.

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