| 28mmMan | 04 Nov 2009 10:41 a.m. PST |
With the latest push for interesting aliens in 15mm what if anything is sorely missed? Yes yes I know, there have been several threads about this very subject
but necro thread refresh is not always appropriate :) So new thread. We have good insect aliens with some more choices being churned out soon. picture There are good dog/hyena aliens. picture Nice set of feline inspired aliens. picture A couple non-humanoid types out or coming out. Is the market sated? Could and would those 15mm science fiction players/gamers buy more if there were more choices? What if anything is needed/wanted? Perhaps a lean towards a different tactic alien
one that is not your classic move, shoot, move, shoot type? Something that would offer some odd tactic that would be interesting in it self? Diggers, flyers, teleporters, etc.. Maybe a dalek for example, classic or recent godlike (sigh) version? A canned ham biological encased in a survival suit, seemingly immortal, with limited mobility (classic), fairly slow movement, great armor, good close combat firing, etc.. Kind of like a man sized tank or field gun, ment for close combat
does not sound all that well designed now that I say it out loud
but it would make a great "space hulk" type of miniature
creep down walkways clearing out critters (people :). Anyway..refresh your thoughts
what is missing from the 15mm science fiction miniature cue? |
| 28mmMan | 04 Nov 2009 10:52 a.m. PST |
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| KJdidit | 04 Nov 2009 10:55 a.m. PST |
I'd like to see some good, beefy, old-fashioned heavy power armor troopers. Something similar to the Mongoose SST Grizzly and Cougar exosuits would be very welcome. |
| khurasanminiatures | 04 Nov 2009 11:07 a.m. PST |
Working on it KJdidit! Not exactly like the mongoose pieces, but a big heavy armour suit for the Corp marines. Dollies are done and awaiting casting
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| Cacique Caribe | 04 Nov 2009 11:08 a.m. PST |
Who let the dogs out? C – M – G did! Who let the dogs out? C – M – G did! Who let the dogs out? C – M – G did! TMP link TMP link CC |
| khurasanminiatures | 04 Nov 2009 11:13 a.m. PST |
28mm, I am working with a sculptor now to make aliens called Chewks -- smaller than humans, they are sand dwellers who live like Bedouin, except they often travel under the sand in a huge vehicle that suddenly emerges from the ground, delivering the Chewk attack force. The dolly parts are being made now -- their blaster rifle, the chewk gun, is made and is an exquisite little piece. Their squad heavy weapon is a missile launcher tube called a chewkzooka. |
| KJdidit | 04 Nov 2009 11:19 a.m. PST |
Khurasan – excellent news! Any chance of preview pics in the near future? |
| 28mmMan | 04 Nov 2009 11:19 a.m. PST |
picture These type of sand dwellers? |
| khurasanminiatures | 04 Nov 2009 11:23 a.m. PST |
Ha ha, not exactly, but there's definitely some inspiration there! Mine don't have shiny eyes in a mini-nazgul like fashion, they have a little head that looks like a crayfish's. Forgot to mention, also have the vespulids, who swarm the enemy getting on top of him immediately using rocketpacks. That's another rather different tactic!  |
| Cacique Caribe | 04 Nov 2009 11:25 a.m. PST |
Khurasan: "I am working with a sculptor now to make aliens called Chewks -- smaller than humans, they are sand dwellers who live like Bedouin" Oooo. I'll buy any good desert dwellers I can get my hands on, either as allies or as enemies for my Sahadeen! I am so excited about my desert planet project, that I am even contemplating recruiting some Russian "FOW SU880 Snipers", as desert scavengers. It would take a little conversion work though, like wrapping their rifles in rags, to disguise the WWII look a little. link For desert aliens, the only option I had so far was converting some Pendraken figures (Night Orcs) so they appear to hold staff weapons of some kind: picture TMP link Or I might just use them as primitive desert aliens. So, Khurasan, bring it on! My wallet is ready for them. CC TMP link |
| Rothgar | 04 Nov 2009 11:33 a.m. PST |
I want ants! The engine will take over Felix and he'll be the only one to survive. |
| 28mmMan | 04 Nov 2009 11:40 a.m. PST |
"The engine will take over Felix and he'll be the only one to survive"? Dude I want the drugs you are on lol! Yes the banana is at your six so we are blue for system bling phone checks written in Spanish!
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| Cacique Caribe | 04 Nov 2009 11:44 a.m. PST |
Ray, que dijiste? No entiendo ni papa. Dan |
| Cacique Caribe | 04 Nov 2009 11:47 a.m. PST |
Anyway . . . "What is next?" I say more SF buildings, like these!!! TMP link Dan |
| 28mmMan | 04 Nov 2009 11:48 a.m. PST |
Dan, Rothgar threw me off with the felix thing, :) So I spun out a bit. Je parle dans les énigmes |
| KJdidit | 04 Nov 2009 11:50 a.m. PST |
Sounds like 28mmMan needs to read Steakley's Armor
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| Cacique Caribe | 04 Nov 2009 11:51 a.m. PST |
LOL. And then you threw me off further. For a second I thought that someone had tampered with my brain's speech centers! Hmm. I think there was an episode like that in Outer Limits or Twilight Zone. Dan |
| Mutant Q | 04 Nov 2009 11:57 a.m. PST |
I'd like to see some bug-o-taur like aliens like the Vrusk from Star Frontiers. picture picture |
| 28mmMan | 04 Nov 2009 12:01 p.m. PST |
ahhhh Felix on Banshee
(slaps forehead) |
| JRacel | 04 Nov 2009 12:05 p.m. PST |
The fact I got the Felix reference imediately, scares me . . . . I guess I am the nerd my coworkers tell me I am!  Jeff |
| MiniatureReview | 04 Nov 2009 12:08 p.m. PST |
You know what I think is funny is 28mmMan talking 15mm. Maybe he should change his name to 15mmMan. :) Man Jon I like what I am hearing. Can not wait to see what power armor stuff you come out with. I really think big power armor troops are missing from 15mm right now. CMG has some, but I wouldn't mind something about twice that size. |
| Rothgar | 04 Nov 2009 12:11 p.m. PST |
Please turn in your nerd card, 28mmMan. |
| Dropship Horizon | 04 Nov 2009 12:20 p.m. PST |
a big heavy armour suit for the Corp marines. Dollies are done and awaiting casting
. Jon has shown me one of these and if the rest follow this one in design and posing, they will be great! Cheers Mark |
| Top Gun Ace | 04 Nov 2009 12:26 p.m. PST |
There are no seated, spaceship crew, in futuristic uniforms, e.g. Star Trek, Space 1999, UFO, etc. style clothing. There are also none of the above standing, unarmed, or with weapons. About the closest anyone has come to them are the Infiltrators (as far as uniforms go), but they are all wearing helmets. I'd love to see a wider range of these, e.g.: some with longer, two-handed weapons, and some kneeling, prone, throwing grenades, running, etc., both with, and without helmets. Add backpacks to the Infiltrators, and they can be astronauts in spacesuits. These would be great for: small ship-board battles; larger actions, where someone still has to stay at helm, navigation, comms, and weapons stations during the fight; to serve as passengers on a space shuttle, or landing craft; or to crew land-based, or moon-based bases. Given the recent re-release of Traveller, and other Sci-Fi rules, I imagine these would fill a rather large niche that is missing in the marketplace, so they should sell well. Sadly, there are also very few flying troops in battle armor, carrying laser/blaster/plasma rifles. Heck, even gauss or needle rifles would be okay. |
| khurasanminiatures | 04 Nov 2009 12:54 p.m. PST |
Hey Tom, don't know if they are twice the size of cmg's as I don't know what size those are! But these guys are in bulky power armour. |
| Moonbeast | 04 Nov 2009 12:59 p.m. PST |
I'll add not-Sathar from Star Frontiers. |
| khurasanminiatures | 04 Nov 2009 1:11 p.m. PST |
Well, whilst not non-Sathar, I'm having a conversian done to the Karks to make them into lampreys, which will give them sort of a wormy look. That's been backburnered for now, but it's definitely happening. |
| Eli Arndt | 04 Nov 2009 2:02 p.m. PST |
The Chewks sound cool. Non-human sized aliens are always good. May not use them as you envision them, but they sound cool. The crayfish heads is cool, thugh they may end being nicknamed "Sand Fleas". -Eli |
| Eli Arndt | 04 Nov 2009 2:11 p.m. PST |
I think the door is wide open for designers to present the market with interesting new aliens. Less humanoid, with curious anatomy. the Tentacled and serpentine aliens such as 28mmMan shows are good sample but I also don't think one needs to go to such extremes to get truly alien. -Eli |
| Dropship Horizon | 04 Nov 2009 2:29 p.m. PST |
but necro thread refresh is not always appropriate :) Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! Mark |
| Cacique Caribe | 04 Nov 2009 2:43 p.m. PST |
LOL. Go ahead and call me "CC The Necromancer", man! If I find something that updates a thread, I just tack it on. Though new threads can be cool too. :) Yours, CC The Necromancer (scary music plays in background) |
| Dragon Gunner | 04 Nov 2009 2:46 p.m. PST |
Paraschnid as a full blown army with multiple bug types. Genestealer Cult Army or something close to it with hybrid humans. I want to run scenarios where the players waltz into town for an investigation and the entire town attempts to kill them as soon as their secret is discovered. Space fantasy / horror along the lines of DOOM. A dimensional rift has allowed scifi demons etc
to enter our universe and run amok. @Khurasan More good news from you on a daily basis. The Pelagic Empire is going to hire lots of mercs and end up looking like Halo Covenant. |
| Dropship Horizon | 04 Nov 2009 2:48 p.m. PST |
Is the market sated? Could and would those 15mm science fiction players/gamers buy more if there were more choices? I personally don't think the market is sated with regards to aliens per se. Everyone has their own ideas and wants, which actually makes the alien 'market' harder to fill. I want, that's WANT!!!! HALO Covenant Elites as they appear in this HALO fan movie: link Does choice increase demand – of course, this last year in the 15mm Sci Fi market has proved that. However, expectation has increased as well. Cheers Mark |
| Cacique Caribe | 04 Nov 2009 2:51 p.m. PST |
"Is the market sated?" Watch your mouth, young man! The 15mm market? Not when you compare it to all the stuff 28mm has had all these years. The 15mm side is still trying to catch up. Watch your mouth! :) CC |
| Steve Hazuka | 04 Nov 2009 2:53 p.m. PST |
15mm NOT Klingons big curved two handed swordy things and Ruffle like ridges on the forehead. |
| Cacique Caribe | 04 Nov 2009 3:14 p.m. PST |
TableTopWarrior: "15mm NOT Klingons big curved two handed swordy things and Ruffle like ridges on the forehead." I love you man!!! CC TMP link |
| Cacique Caribe | 04 Nov 2009 3:23 p.m. PST |
We are definitely missing some field service droids, in all sorts of duty assignments (but not like they are Terminators or anything like that). Perhaps something like the Pig Iron ones: picture CC |
| khurasanminiatures | 04 Nov 2009 3:44 p.m. PST |
Hi Eli, yes I think sand fleas are a good analogy, actually, hiding in the sand, a menace. . Actually I think of them more as crayfish though -- some people who live in warmer climes may have had crawdads in their lawns, which can be an annoying experience. I am thinking of the chewks as what I wish the jawas had been in SW. But of course they are not jawas! |
| Pole Bitwy PL | 04 Nov 2009 3:54 p.m. PST |
Mark, not-HALO high tech aliens are right behind the werewolves, which in turn are right behind the simians that are being sculpted right now. They will definitely be a lizard-like high tech society with very clean design lines, maybe even some not-Tau ideas. Not to mention lots of different zombies. Did I say zombies
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| Dropship Horizon | 04 Nov 2009 4:02 p.m. PST |
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| 28mmMan | 04 Nov 2009 4:04 p.m. PST |
Tri-2000
un person' ; la taille de s n'est pas jugée par un person' ; nom de s mon ami :) 28mmMan fits even if I were to venture into the 15mm realm :) Rothgar: "Please turn in your nerd card, 28mmMan" turn it in? How curious, as mine is imprinted picture
Dropzone: your fan vid did not load for me, but is this what you seek? picture Slàinte mhath!
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| Top Gun Ace | 04 Nov 2009 4:04 p.m. PST |
"15mm NOT Klingons big curved two handed swordy things and Ruffle like ridges on the forehead". I prefer mine with disruptor rifles and pistols, but a few hand-to-hand types would be good too. Don't forget the Romulans, especially their attractive, cunning, and ruthless female leaders. |
| 28mmMan | 04 Nov 2009 4:22 p.m. PST |
How about these cast in blue tinted clear resin? picture |
| Pole Bitwy PL | 04 Nov 2009 4:27 p.m. PST |
28mmMan: Nice idea but could be [very] expensive. Resin is costly, you cannot recycle mistakes and the molds wear out a lot faster :/ |
| 28mmMan | 04 Nov 2009 4:33 p.m. PST |
There are a series of give and takes with resin casting. The plus side is that I am completely set up for resin mold making and casting where I am not setup for production metal casting at this time. Mistakes? You jest, yes? lol Actually I have a grinder for resin cast offs
grind to use as filler for larger castings. I save all the powder from grindings also, for making resin paste. |
| Dropship Horizon | 04 Nov 2009 5:55 p.m. PST |
Dropzone: your fan vid did not load for me, but is this what you seek? Yes but no. The creatures in the HALO fan vid look heavier. They appear 4:02 into movie: YouTube link Cheers Mark
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| Cacique Caribe | 04 Nov 2009 5:57 p.m. PST |
Mark, that video is just tooooooo coooooool. I hadn't seen that before. Thanks!!! Dan |
| Dropship Horizon | 04 Nov 2009 6:01 p.m. PST |
I love it! Have it stored on my IPod. Never mind the action, the intro is superb. Cheers Mark |
| Eli Arndt | 04 Nov 2009 6:08 p.m. PST |
Mark, I watched the video but really ever saw a good look at the Brutes (which I would LOVE). -Eli |
| Eli Arndt | 04 Nov 2009 6:13 p.m. PST |
@Jon – I see the "Sand Flee" as an in-game nickname for them. @Piotr – Good news. If they do well will you continue the momentum and make other HALO-inspired aliens. -ELi |