"Klingons: Original or Extra Wrinkley?" Topic

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I'd like to see a mix… with all sorts of compicated tensions between them.

I like the wrinkly ones

Wrinkly but with sensible hair, from "Star Trek: The Motion Picture."

After the Empire discovered 80s Big Hair Metal Bands and the Permanent Wave the Klingons were just never the same.

While I favor the old Trek I have to go with wrinkly Klingons.

Wrinkly in looks (and thank Grud Worf lost the 'Federation Bob'!) has a very slight edge, but classic/SFB in attitude and demeanor. Bring back the slave races!

Original Klingons!!!

I like my Klingons extra wrinkley please. Original Klingons get wrinkley over time. There was a episode where some of the klingons from TOS show up in an episode of DS9 as wrinkley klingons. One of my favorite episodes from that series.

Dave

I like the slightly effiminate "desginer chain mailed" space hun versions with boufante eyebrows and goatees.

Ever since StarTrek 3 all Klingons either sound like Jim From Taxi, like semi-feral pluracy/bronchitis sufferers, or drunk tenors with abnormal teeth that make them talk through their saliva build up. They never could decide on any real consistent rules for the armored foreheads anyway so it gotto be pretty silly. They should have made Klingon more of a culture with an ideology instead of a "Race" in the first place(like the Federation). Tribbles ruined idea that with their "inhuman" vital signs reference. The whole "what if the early vandals were also kind of mutant samurai" thing sucks.

Me gusto the wrinkly foreheads.

Wrinkly!

Wrinkly. It makes them more like Rock Wallabies and that makes me smile :)

Classic! Wrinkles are without honor!

Bring back William Campbell as Captain Koloth.

As for me . . . Klingons have rrrridges!!!

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Extra wrinkly for me, too. It gives them character.

Wrinkly and Ridged with crazy hair.

Alpha strike them!!! I like them extra crispy!!!

The uglier and the meaner the better. Don't want any of those girly-klingons.

But I see now they are running the war in Iraq.
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Wrinkly. Not sure what an "extra wrinkly" Klingon would be like tho.

Ever since StarTrek 3 all Klingons either sound like Jim From Taxi

Or maybe he was being played by a Klingon with a prune juice addiction…

Original and best!

Mobius: LOL! Thanks for the link. ;-)

tnjrp, probably an "extra wrinkly" Klingon would be your very rare senior citizen Klingons. You didn't hear it from me, but word is they're still pretty feisty. ;-)

Original.
They were menacing and scary.
The new ones are just to goofy to take seriously.

Besides, the original ones used guns. The new ones don't, they bring knives to a gun fight.

I don't care – as long as they are in 28mm ;-)

I like Worf's explination about the "differences" in Klingon physiology in "Trials and Tribbliations". "WE DON'T LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT!"

Extra Wrinkly for me. White guys with shoe polish on their faces,wearing gold sashes are not cool.

Extra wrinkly, now make some!

At least make some heads and 2 handed swords, you know, and then I'll do some nice converting for 28mm figures.

Original! All Klingons are thinly-disguised Space Commies with a bit of Ghenghis Khan thrown in for flavor. Heck, I'm reasonably certain my Eurasian Solar Union fleet in Full Thrust uses them as crewmen…

I'm a fan of the non-wrinkly myself. But I have to have wrinkly, I'd like to see them with jheri-curl hair-dos. A secret guilty pleasure, to be sure.

The original ones are Space Banditos, they just need some sombreros. Then they could tell Kirk they don' need no steekin' badges ;-) I like them but prefer the later wrinkley ones.

How about this Klingon.
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That one is perfect.

Thieses: "White guys with shoe polish on their faces,wearing gold sashes are not cool."

Agreed. Wrinkles definitely make them look alien and proper.

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The original impulse behind Star Trek was the era of "gunboat diplomacy" in the late 19th century in the Pacific. Essentially, the original Klingons were disguised Japanese prior to Tsuschimia. Spock is a chinese immigrant!

Thus you have those silly episode with space hippies and innocent "islanders", with "starbases" being "stations".

Oh, and I prefer the original klingons, not the trilobites on the forehead, klingons.

Rocky

Apparently, the flat forehead Klingons were viewed as deformed by the rest! :)

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PS. Though I would call the flat foreheaded ones "decreased" instead of "augmented".

About FASA's Klingons:

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Nice site about Klingon uniforms:

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Another one about the evolution of their uniform:

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I need Klingons in true 25mm! I am putting on the last dullcote on my TOS guys as I speak! Somebody Hep Smokey!!

What is funny is that they actually felt the need to explain the change in the Klingons beyond the original reason which was improvements in special effects makeup and a better budget.

The canon explination came in the Enterprise series, though FASA's hybridization explination was always an interesting one and a good basis for elements of an RPG.

I even recall reading, at one time, that the series' developers had developed some sort of system of determining clan or family by ridge pattern.

I do prefer my Klingons like I like my potato chips – with ridges. To me they seem a little more alien than the original ones without becoming so much so that they lose their dramatic value.

-Eli

Prune juice "A Warrior's Drink" as Worf said in Yesterday's Enterprise.

Captain Gideon

Alpha strike them!!! I like them extra crispy!!!

But Mizia-shots through a downed shield renders them combat-ineffective faster!

Old School culture, please. Worf and Commander Hawk (err, Sisko) aren't bad, but Klingons need the old attitude back.