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Cacique Caribe17 Jan 2007 4:37 p.m. PST
Space Monkey17 Jan 2007 4:42 p.m. PST

I'd like to see a mix… with all sorts of compicated tensions between them.

Lowtardog17 Jan 2007 4:43 p.m. PST

I like the wrinkly ones

Plynkes17 Jan 2007 4:43 p.m. PST

Wrinkly but with sensible hair, from "Star Trek: The Motion Picture."

After the Empire discovered 80s Big Hair Metal Bands and the Permanent Wave the Klingons were just never the same.

Striker17 Jan 2007 4:45 p.m. PST

While I favor the old Trek I have to go with wrinkly Klingons.

nvdoyle17 Jan 2007 5:05 p.m. PST

Wrinkly in looks (and thank Grud Worf lost the 'Federation Bob'!) has a very slight edge, but classic/SFB in attitude and demeanor. Bring back the slave races!

mrwigglesworth17 Jan 2007 5:14 p.m. PST

Original Klingons!!!

DontFearDareaper Fezian17 Jan 2007 5:22 p.m. PST

I like my Klingons extra wrinkley please. Original Klingons get wrinkley over time. There was a episode where some of the klingons from TOS show up in an episode of DS9 as wrinkley klingons. One of my favorite episodes from that series.


palaeoemrus17 Jan 2007 5:27 p.m. PST

I like the slightly effiminate "desginer chain mailed" space hun versions with boufante eyebrows and goatees.

Ever since StarTrek 3 all Klingons either sound like Jim From Taxi, like semi-feral pluracy/bronchitis sufferers, or drunk tenors with abnormal teeth that make them talk through their saliva build up. They never could decide on any real consistent rules for the armored foreheads anyway so it gotto be pretty silly. They should have made Klingon more of a culture with an ideology instead of a "Race" in the first place(like the Federation). Tribbles ruined idea that with their "inhuman" vital signs reference. The whole "what if the early vandals were also kind of mutant samurai" thing sucks.

Personal logo javelin98 Supporting Member of TMP17 Jan 2007 5:48 p.m. PST

Me gusto the wrinkly foreheads.

abelp0117 Jan 2007 6:08 p.m. PST


Covert Walrus17 Jan 2007 6:23 p.m. PST

Wrinkly. It makes them more like Rock Wallabies and that makes me smile :)

The G Dog Fezian17 Jan 2007 7:44 p.m. PST

Classic! Wrinkles are without honor!

Bring back William Campbell as Captain Koloth.

Cacique Caribe17 Jan 2007 7:54 p.m. PST

As for me . . . Klingons have rrrridges!!!


Personal logo Saginaw Supporting Member of TMP17 Jan 2007 8:06 p.m. PST

Extra wrinkly for me, too. It gives them character.

Goldwyrm17 Jan 2007 8:50 p.m. PST

Wrinkly and Ridged with crazy hair.

DemosLaserCutDesigns Fezian17 Jan 2007 9:29 p.m. PST

Alpha strike them!!! I like them extra crispy!!!

Mobius17 Jan 2007 9:31 p.m. PST

The uglier and the meaner the better. Don't want any of those girly-klingons.

Mobius17 Jan 2007 9:36 p.m. PST

But I see now they are running the war in Iraq.

tnjrp17 Jan 2007 10:48 p.m. PST

Wrinkly. Not sure what an "extra wrinkly" Klingon would be like tho.

GypsyComet18 Jan 2007 12:40 a.m. PST

Ever since StarTrek 3 all Klingons either sound like Jim From Taxi

Or maybe he was being played by a Klingon with a prune juice addiction…

Calico Bill18 Jan 2007 3:14 a.m. PST

Original and best!

Personal logo Saginaw Supporting Member of TMP18 Jan 2007 4:55 a.m. PST

Mobius: LOL! Thanks for the link. ;-)

tnjrp, probably an "extra wrinkly" Klingon would be your very rare senior citizen Klingons. You didn't hear it from me, but word is they're still pretty feisty. ;-)

DS615118 Jan 2007 5:05 a.m. PST

They were menacing and scary.
The new ones are just to goofy to take seriously.

Besides, the original ones used guns. The new ones don't, they bring knives to a gun fight.

Norrins18 Jan 2007 7:47 a.m. PST

I don't care – as long as they are in 28mm ;-)

Thieses18 Jan 2007 8:21 a.m. PST

I like Worf's explination about the "differences" in Klingon physiology in "Trials and Tribbliations". "WE DON'T LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT!"

Extra Wrinkly for me. White guys with shoe polish on their faces,wearing gold sashes are not cool.

Steve Hazuka18 Jan 2007 9:18 a.m. PST

Extra wrinkly, now make some!

At least make some heads and 2 handed swords, you know, and then I'll do some nice converting for 28mm figures.

Hundvig Fezian18 Jan 2007 9:30 a.m. PST

Original! All Klingons are thinly-disguised Space Commies with a bit of Ghenghis Khan thrown in for flavor. Heck, I'm reasonably certain my Eurasian Solar Union fleet in Full Thrust uses them as crewmen…

Jay Arnold18 Jan 2007 10:22 a.m. PST

I'm a fan of the non-wrinkly myself. But I have to have wrinkly, I'd like to see them with jheri-curl hair-dos. A secret guilty pleasure, to be sure.

Hacksaw18 Jan 2007 3:44 p.m. PST

The original ones are Space Banditos, they just need some sombreros. Then they could tell Kirk they don' need no steekin' badges ;-) I like them but prefer the later wrinkley ones.

mrwigglesworth18 Jan 2007 9:26 p.m. PST

How about this Klingon.

DS615119 Jan 2007 4:50 a.m. PST

That one is perfect.

Cacique Caribe06 Apr 2007 1:18 a.m. PST

Thieses: "White guys with shoe polish on their faces,wearing gold sashes are not cool."

Agreed. Wrinkles definitely make them look alien and proper.


RockyRusso06 Apr 2007 10:18 a.m. PST


The original impulse behind Star Trek was the era of "gunboat diplomacy" in the late 19th century in the Pacific. Essentially, the original Klingons were disguised Japanese prior to Tsuschimia. Spock is a chinese immigrant!

Thus you have those silly episode with space hippies and innocent "islanders", with "starbases" being "stations".

Oh, and I prefer the original klingons, not the trilobites on the forehead, klingons.


Cacique Caribe09 May 2007 12:36 p.m. PST

Apparently, the flat forehead Klingons were viewed as deformed by the rest! :)


PS. Though I would call the flat foreheaded ones "decreased" instead of "augmented".

Cacique Caribe29 May 2007 12:28 p.m. PST

About FASA's Klingons:

TMP link


Cacique Caribe15 Jun 2007 8:38 p.m. PST

Nice site about Klingon uniforms:



Cacique Caribe15 Jun 2007 8:42 p.m. PST

Another one about the evolution of their uniform:



Smokey Roan15 Jun 2007 8:58 p.m. PST

I need Klingons in true 25mm! I am putting on the last dullcote on my TOS guys as I speak! Somebody Hep Smokey!!

Eli Arndt21 Sep 2011 7:11 a.m. PST

What is funny is that they actually felt the need to explain the change in the Klingons beyond the original reason which was improvements in special effects makeup and a better budget.

The canon explination came in the Enterprise series, though FASA's hybridization explination was always an interesting one and a good basis for elements of an RPG.

I even recall reading, at one time, that the series' developers had developed some sort of system of determining clan or family by ridge pattern.

I do prefer my Klingons like I like my potato chips – with ridges. To me they seem a little more alien than the original ones without becoming so much so that they lose their dramatic value.


Captain Gideon21 Sep 2011 9:23 a.m. PST

Prune juice "A Warrior's Drink" as Worf said in Yesterday's Enterprise.

Captain Gideon

Lion in the Stars22 Sep 2011 2:09 a.m. PST

Alpha strike them!!! I like them extra crispy!!!
But Mizia-shots through a downed shield renders them combat-ineffective faster!

Old School culture, please. Worf and Commander Hawk (err, Sisko) aren't bad, but Klingons need the old attitude back.

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