Cacique Caribe | 15 Aug 2014 6:16 p.m. PST |
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Covert Walrus | 15 Aug 2014 6:23 p.m. PST |
We all know my preferences in alien form by know :) |
dBerczerk | 15 Aug 2014 6:44 p.m. PST |
Always thought these fellows were pretty cool.
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Cacique Caribe | 15 Aug 2014 6:53 p.m. PST |
Those "Martians" actually look a lot like the aliens reported by witnesses in Salzburg Austria, May 15, 1951. Dan |
Cufflink | 15 Aug 2014 7:24 p.m. PST |
I like the Hopkinsville 'goblins'! I remember reading about an alleged second sighting of them (Puerto Rico, I think), in one of Timothy Good's books. |
War Monkey | 15 Aug 2014 7:35 p.m. PST |
The Classic three; Grays Lizards Bugs |
haywire | 15 Aug 2014 9:45 p.m. PST |
Yeah the goblins used to scare the ### out of me when I saw them in the Project Blue Book TV series. |
Cacique Caribe | 15 Aug 2014 11:41 p.m. PST |
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abdul666lw | 16 Aug 2014 5:37 a.m. PST |
None, they all are far too humanoid to be credible. Because of lack of imagination or biological knowledge, cheapness in the case of movie ones and perhaps inconscious creationism thay are only SF variants of mythological humanoid beings, elves, dwarves, goblins, giants, demons… Many details correspond to "historical accidents" along biological evolution on Earth, specially at the origin of vertebrates, and are totally unlikely to have appeared elsewhere: the number of limbs and the orientation of their articulations, but specially at the level of the head: type of eyes, external ears, the nose – having the respiratory and digestive tracks crossing at the back of the mouth is an oddity – and the lower jaw derived from an embryonic gill. The lower jaw of the Predator is interesting (it would be great on the Alien and would make it less 'earthling'), but otherwise he looks too much like a "guy in rubber suit". Even the Vorlons of B5 are too humanoid – there is no reason for their powered exoskeleton to follow a human-like pattern, a spider-like one would male more sense; the Martians of War of the World (the movie) are more interesting. What are the basic requirements, exposed from a paramecium to a man? Mobility and prehension; mobility implies bilateral symmetry and cephalisation (a 'head' with the mouth, the brain, the eyes against a 'rear part' with the anus and the excretory orifice(s)); prehension requires at east a pair of (front) free limbs. One may add air breathing – to live in water is not propitious to the manipulation of fire and the discovery of chemistry. So I'd favor a centaur-type bodyplan with the articulations of the 'legs' opposite to that of our tetrapods (i.e. looking like chicken's legs); not sure about the exo- or endoskeleton and thus the type of eyes? But the head should be blatantly 'not human': no external ears, the respiratory orifices on the sides of the neck, the lower jaw obviously coming from a regressed front pair of limbs (like that of the Reapers in Blade 2?)… |
Legion 4 | 16 Aug 2014 7:38 a.m. PST |
Any hot human female aliens, I think they call them Nordics … link |
Cerdic | 16 Aug 2014 8:09 a.m. PST |
They've missed out these guys….
And these….
And, of course, the ultimate……
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The Shadow | 16 Aug 2014 8:26 a.m. PST |
>>Invasion of the Saucer Men (1950's)<< I saw it on it's first run back in '57 and was pretty disappointed that it was a "tongue in cheek" riff on the "little green men from mars" belief. The poster was very misleading, Like the "Day the Earth Stood Still" and "Forbidden Planet" posters. |
Coelacanth | 16 Aug 2014 8:44 a.m. PST |
Alien Space Bats, with their compulsion to meddle in human history. Ron P.S. "Blob" aliens correlate perfectly with the release date of the movie. Coincidence? |
The Shadow | 16 Aug 2014 9:25 a.m. PST |
>>"Blob" aliens correlate perfectly with the release date of the movie. Coincidence?<< Not at all. People who actually believe that life forms from another world can travel faster than the speed of light, and can travel from another solar system to ours, probably saw the movie and were influenced by it. |
Sargonarhes | 16 Aug 2014 2:21 p.m. PST |
What's not to like about them? But I'm guessing you want the supposed aliens that are reported to government agents. Would Chupacabras count? link |
Redmenace | 16 Aug 2014 4:00 p.m. PST |
"Real" I like the weirder ones like the Mothman or the odder Men in black. Cinematically, the Giger aliens. Sort of possible, Larry Niven's Puppeteer's. |
carne68 | 16 Aug 2014 4:40 p.m. PST |
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haywire | 16 Aug 2014 5:13 p.m. PST |
CC, Huh… that's not the one I remember… Those were just glowing green globs. Was there another TV show or movie about that incident? Doesn't look like it was "in Search of" |
Cacique Caribe | 16 Aug 2014 5:37 p.m. PST |
How long ago did you watch the shown Dan |
haywire | 16 Aug 2014 6:00 p.m. PST |
This is gonna drive me crazy. I used to live on that stuff as a kid. It was 1970s maybe early 80s. I remember the costumes having huge claws and they were glowing. I remember the one on the roof, the one in the window just like this picture
and two of them running around outside in the distance, like one the edge of the property. |
Cacique Caribe | 16 Aug 2014 7:24 p.m. PST |
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TwinMirror | 18 Aug 2014 5:52 a.m. PST |
abdul666lw: I totally agree; in reality, humanoid aliens are highly unlikely. Your arguments are excellent is all regards, and I make the same ones frequently to people who haven't spent the time ot consider the question seriously. However, most sci-fi gaming is pretty 'pulp' (please excuse my loose use of the term!), and I think we can indulge whatever goofy ideas we want, as long as we don't take it too seriously. And I think that's all CC was implying. After all, look at those aliens in CC's initial post: they're hilarious! And great for all that. Even as a kid, I thought they were ludicrous and unlikely, even before I could precisely articulate whay that was so. |
haywire | 18 Aug 2014 7:52 a.m. PST |
So I'd favor a centaur-type bodyplan with the articulations of the 'legs' opposite to that of our tetrapods (i.e. looking like chicken's legs); not sure about the exo- or endoskeleton and thus the type of eyes? But the head should be blatantly 'not human': no external ears, the respiratory orifices on the sides of the neck, the lower jaw obviously coming from a regressed front pair of limbs (like that of the Reapers in Blade 2?)… That reminds me of another movie… more recent. Centaur type creature with a chitin shielded head (kinda like the Masters in Pacific Rim) It escapes an Area 51 type army base and kills soldiers. They NUKE the site at the end just as it got out. B Movie on Sci Fi or Showtime Beyond, really bad acting. Might be one of the newer outer limits, but i dont think it was. (looking at a list, I think it is Alien Hunter but I dont see a good picture of the alien) |
Legion 4 | 18 Aug 2014 8:05 a.m. PST |
in reality, humanoid aliens are highly unlikely. That is the safe most logical conclusion … But as always … we'll have to wait and see … or not … |
The Shadow | 18 Aug 2014 5:33 p.m. PST |
>>we'll have to wait and see … or not …<< Since Einstein theorized that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light, and from what I understand he was a pretty smart guy, aliens from another planetary system can't get here from there within a reasonable amount of time as other planetary systems are light years away. So I vote "or not". |
Curufea | 18 Aug 2014 5:47 p.m. PST |
Nice bunch of links to historical Alien mythology! I'll have to use them in a roleplaying game at some point. I don't have a favourite, because it's not something I've looked into. I'm not that keen on trawling things that people actually believe in for material – it seems a bit creepy to me that someone out there is sure that the things exist. |
Helena Bottom Farter | 18 Aug 2014 7:41 p.m. PST |
I think people are not getting the question. It's about aliens based on reported sightings. So no daleks or predators. Myself, I like the pile of poo at 1971! |
The Shadow | 18 Aug 2014 8:27 p.m. PST |
>>I think people are not getting the question. It's about aliens based on reported sightings.<< We're getting the question alright. But how come the Flying Purple People Eater ain't on the chart. Sheb Wooley saw one back in '58. |
Dan 055 | 19 Aug 2014 8:01 a.m. PST |
He went extinct – he couldn't find any flying purple people to eat. |
The Shadow | 19 Aug 2014 8:04 a.m. PST |
>>He went extinct – he couldn't find any flying purple people to eat.<< LOL. Too bad. He only wanted to play in a Rock & Roll band. |
Legion 4 | 19 Aug 2014 8:20 a.m. PST |
But Shadow … what if Einstein was wrong ? We work on the laws of physics as we know/think they should be. Other older smarter denizens of the Galaxy/Universe/Multiverse may be operating on a different level … Of course I'm no science guy. But I watch a lot of shows on the Science Channel[Not the 'n SyFy Channel] … So there is a whole lot of smarter guys than me … That think you maybe be able to go FTL … and certianly believe we are not alone … So again, we'll have to wait and see … but we probably won't know for sure on a number of these things, in our life times … |
The Shadow | 19 Aug 2014 8:43 a.m. PST |
>>what if Einstein was wrong?<< While that's certainly possible, Einstein's theory is one of the most widely accepted theories ever! Anyway, no alien visitor has ever come forth, Klaatu like, and said "here I am". So I think that i'll go along with Einstein until somebody disproves his theory, or comes up with a visitor. |
Cacique Caribe | 19 Aug 2014 9:03 a.m. PST |
If a bunch of red-blooded, moonshine-drinking, shotgun-toting hillbilly rednecks say they saw them space critters, well that's gospel to me! After all, they have become our first line of defense!!!
TMP link Dan |