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Cacique Caribe05 Oct 2006 9:52 a.m. PST

. . . drilling and mining operations wake up something in the lava tubes and caves that were under the ice. The military moves in . . .

What 28mm human figures would you use for 2050 A.D.?

What do you think they would find? What figures would you recommend for it/them?

Thanks.

CC

Col Stone05 Oct 2006 9:56 a.m. PST

I'd probably o with urban mammoth viridian marines, they've got a nice futuristic look without bein OOT, the marines at least
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Cacique Caribe05 Oct 2006 9:57 a.m. PST

Mining map:

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79thPA Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2006 10:22 a.m. PST

Well, by 2050 I think the military could easily wipe out any prehistoric types you might find, so maybe a race of aliens who escaped from their home planet and have been living undisturbed (or who have been dormant)beneath the Earth's crust. Maybe that is where all of the UFOs come from that people claim to see. They are real and living under the Antartic ice cap! It's not my genre, so I can't help with figs, but GW's Kroots make suitably nasty looking aliens at a pretty reasonable price. Copplestone makes some troops obviously dressed for cold weather operations in his "Future Wars" line, as well as guys in NBC suits.

Cacique Caribe05 Oct 2006 10:24 a.m. PST

"Well, by 2050 I think the military could easily wipe out any prehistoric types you might find, so maybe a race of aliens who escaped from their home planet and have been living undisturbed (or who have been dormant)beneath the Earth's crust. Maybe that is where all of the UFOs come from that people claim to see. They are real and living under the Antartic ice cap!"

79thPA, I like your thinking!

CC

smcwatt05 Oct 2006 11:16 a.m. PST

Marines vs. Shoggoths. It has potential.

SMc.

Cacique Caribe05 Oct 2006 11:17 a.m. PST

Lakes under the ice:
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Mount Erebus:
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Cacique Caribe05 Oct 2006 11:21 a.m. PST

More on Mt. Erebus:

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Jakar Nilson05 Oct 2006 11:22 a.m. PST

There's actually a board game (called "Antarctica") that's set after global warming melts all the ice away. Play as one of four global powers/continents in the upcomming struggle…

Cacique Caribe05 Oct 2006 11:26 a.m. PST

I am thinking of glacial tunnel fighting between near-future troops and an as-yet-hidden advanced alien race . . .

. . . maybe regugees from Mars from before it lost its atmosphere?

CC

John Switzer Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2006 12:30 p.m. PST

Cacique
You should read James Rollins "Ice Hunt." Great thriller in the artic with all kinds of gaming potential.
John

Conrad05 Oct 2006 1:26 p.m. PST

Ah, you young pups. Does nobody here remember "The Thing"?

HMSResolution05 Oct 2006 1:32 p.m. PST

The dreaded Ice Warriors from Doctor Who are reawakening, are they? Send in UNIT…

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2006 1:42 p.m. PST

We're talking 100 years after "The Thing" made its appearance. It would still be somewhat of a threat to some of the civilians, but I'm sure the drilling and mining team would be able to blast it to bits before any army guys could even show up.

Hundvig Fezian05 Oct 2006 3:26 p.m. PST

Isn't the Nazi flying saucer base down there somewhere?

And blasting a shoggoth (or the Thing) to bits just multiplies teh problem. You want flamethrowers…lots of flamethrowers. Or maybe a nuke.

WargamersHeadquarters05 Oct 2006 3:50 p.m. PST

Well 2050 is not that far away !If your looking for alot of figs I'd go with Cadian troopers from GW .You get around 20 figs for $35 USD (yankee $}Or maybe some mobile infantry from mongoose ( Starship Troopers).Eden Studios just released some "greys" that might be interesting for your aliens.Use the greys like masters of some bugs!

Farstar05 Oct 2006 4:17 p.m. PST

The old Heritage "Squids with guns" are back in production…

Farstar05 Oct 2006 5:44 p.m. PST

…specifically, the squids from the Galacta-3 line, now produced by Mudpuppy Games.

timlillig05 Oct 2006 6:53 p.m. PST

In H. P. Lovecraft's "At the Mountains of Madness" actic explorers run into two types of creatures. If you look at Pictors Studio Call of Cthulhu Page link you can see the Elder Thing. Several of them are found under the ice. Deep in the things' abandoned city the adventurers encounter a Shoggoth, also shown in the photos.

It would probably still be cold enough that for humans you can use artic explorers like Copplestone's Polar adventurers link

GarnhamGhast05 Oct 2006 10:43 p.m. PST

Martians, shoggoths, Nazis, Elder things, Ice warriors, the thing…. Jeez it's crowded down there! No wonder the ice melted!

Personal logo Dances With Words Supporting Member of TMP Fezian06 Oct 2006 1:50 a.m. PST

Wasn't there a brit movie about shooting/wounding some sort of 'prehistoric' thing…and it's blood contained 'germs' etc…humans weren't prepared for…so they ended up shooting a 'radioactive isotope' to kill it/the germs/from a roller-coaster…before the lizard thing got 'burnt up'…???

I guess they couldn't kill it fast enough/piece of it would have still contaminated/been 'germ-infested/blood etc…' so they used a rifle grenade to deliver the 'rad round'..and then it burned???

Do we really WANT to go 'messing around' under the ice in Antarctica??? (underice lakes sealed off from our environment for 4 MILLION years???

and what about GREENLAND…it has an ice-sheath 2-4 miles thick??? (and is only 'inhabited' on the edges??? what might be 'burried' under it…?? (besides WWII bombers at 250 feet???)…

Sgt DWW

Rattlehead06 Oct 2006 7:15 a.m. PST

For 2050 AD, I'd use Pig Iron troopers I think…

Mysterioso06 Oct 2006 10:11 a.m. PST

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I have not read this but ran across it when looking for other books.

Conrad06 Oct 2006 1:50 p.m. PST

Sorry, you don't need UNIT for the Ice Warriors – a sun lamp or a box of matches will see them off.

If I were being sensible about CC's question, I'd look at the military of 44 years ago and contrast with the military of today, see what differences there are and look for a futurish range with just those.

Cacique Caribe06 Oct 2006 10:20 p.m. PST

The drilling plans for the lakes:
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Looks deep:
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For those looking for gaming inspiration . . .

Kadath?:
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Antarctica UFOs?:
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ufoarea.com/main_antarctica.html

New Swabia?:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Swabia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_UFOs

CC

Cincinnatus07 Oct 2006 8:04 p.m. PST

They'd find the Predator temple with the Aliens in it.

Sargonarhes08 Oct 2006 4:36 a.m. PST

Unfortunately Antarctica isn't melting like every one thinks. New research data has the tempurature there has dropped over the past 35 years, and the ice has been getting thicker. There goes one of the plot holes for the AvP movie.

So any game idea for Antarctica is still going to have to deal with the snow and the ice. Luckly there aren't any polar bears down there.

Cacique Caribe08 Oct 2006 10:21 a.m. PST

Sargonarhes,

I am not really a supporter of the idea that Antarctica is melting (according to the popular global warming theory). However, I think it would be amusing (in a gaming sense) to assume it melted (or half-melted) and there was something beneath.

CC

Sargonarhes08 Oct 2006 2:39 p.m. PST

Well from a gaming point of view ok, although an explaination might be needed.
In the anime Evangelion there was an event called the second impact which melted all the ice on Antacrtica. But things get even worse after that.

But wouldn't aliens landing there and make it their primary base of operation for the invasion of the rest of Earth be an even better scenario? Then on top of ground troops you'd have an excuse to have 6mm battles in hopes of dislodging them from their stronghold.

Cacique Caribe16 Dec 2006 9:51 p.m. PST

Let's see what happens when they drill Lake Vostok . . .

TMP link

CC

Dragon Gunner26 Dec 2006 12:37 a.m. PST

The aliens from the computer game Arctic Fox, terraforming the planet with cloaked machines. A few advanced vehicles they managed to bring with them from their home planet but have no hope of replacing. Some bio constructs created in test tubes and released on humans as a terror weapon. Advanced alien infantry defending their bases beneath the ice from a multinational task force hell bent on capturing technology.

Dragon Gunner26 Dec 2006 12:41 a.m. PST

Make a United Nations task force and use a variety of miniatures from different sources. (Turkistan sends Copplestone Neo Soviets)

Cacique Caribe26 Dec 2006 12:58 a.m. PST

A race then? With Russians and Western nations all trying to reach what they think will be a source of technological advantage, only to find something more dangerous?

I like that.

CC

Hacksaw26 Dec 2006 2:11 p.m. PST

Aha! Finally a use for all the random winter Soviets I picked up in a trade! Thats all I need is another project…thanks guys!! :-)

Top Gun Ace29 Dec 2006 12:03 p.m. PST

"Isn't the Nazi flying saucer base down there somewhere"?

No, it is in Argentina, but doesn't get used much, since when powered up, it has an adverse effect on the earth's ozone layer, which is why that hole in the layer keeps re-appearing periodically. They are doing test-flights on it, ozone permitting.

Cacique Caribe29 Dec 2006 4:18 p.m. PST

Just wondering . . .

If the Antarctic began to melt and leave just a few large glaciers, would there be a a mass migration of Inuits, Tibetans, Andeans and Lapps to the southern continent.

CC

AndrewGPaul29 Dec 2006 4:49 p.m. PST

The ice is up to 2 miles thick. I don't think 45 years is going to shift much of it. Having said that,

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Have some nice images of the actual land surface of Antarctica. Not as much as you'd think.

Cacique Caribe29 Dec 2006 4:57 p.m. PST

Wow. That still makes for an interesting looking island chain!

Thanks.

CC

Cacique Caribe02 Jan 2007 1:40 p.m. PST

I wonder if UFO sightings increase when the temperature drops in the northern and southern hemispheres – a clear indication that their homebase must be in Antarctica!!! :)

CC

Cacique Caribe03 Jan 2007 12:42 a.m. PST

This is what I am talking about:

"Mount Erebus' ice caves are among the most promising places for undiscovered life in Antarctica. Though they grow or shrink depending on how much heat the volcano emits, inside they maintain a temperature of about 32 degrees. Says McIntosh: 'The caves are wonderful because they're so warm.'"
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Roberto Cofresi04 Jan 2007 1:05 p.m. PST

Hillbillies had better make room: picture

Yonderboy04 Jan 2007 1:39 p.m. PST

Fancy a vote for pre-historic evolution gone awry?

I vote for 15-30 foot long fast-burrowing crustacea evolved from prehistoric populations trapped below the ice. They have survived on seals, polar bears, and penguins for millenia. Early in their evolution, they developed a physiological process incorporating titanium and iridium into their chitin, thus overcoming the size limits that regulate normal crustacean growth; thus they can not leave the antarctic, where sub-ice meteorites provide the metals they need.

Think of the opportunities: They rise from the sub-ice lakes to tunnel with their "heat glands" and surprise explorers from below with a clatter of bullet-resistant claws… random surfacings, surprise attacks, the rush to solid rock and safety across the ice sheets.

I will have to think about models that would work, but that scenario appeals to me.

Yonderboy04 Jan 2007 1:52 p.m. PST

Some inspiration:

Mantis shrimp

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Precambrian sea scorpion

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Chupacabras04 Jan 2007 1:53 p.m. PST

Like these?
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Just call'em their ice cousins.

Chupacabras04 Jan 2007 2:16 p.m. PST

I see. Something like this model then, but about 2 inches long?
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qar qarth04 Jan 2007 2:26 p.m. PST

These seem to be the right size: link

Old Bill04 Jan 2007 5:09 p.m. PST

See Ground Zero 28mm figures for cold weather fighters

Cacique Caribe09 Jan 2007 8:26 a.m. PST

Yonderboy,

Seems like a lot of the Tyranid carapaces and shells could work for the top of some of those mutant bugs:
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What if one were to glue a few of those bits to the top of ready-made toy insects and centipedes?

CC

qar qarth13 Jan 2007 10:59 p.m. PST

This is really an alien-looking creature: link

Cacique Caribe23 Feb 2007 4:04 p.m. PST

This is neat:

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