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Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP10 Aug 2009 8:35 a.m. PST

How's this? Anyone seen them?

Walmart has them for $3.97 USD

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I have a question or two specifically about their two "battle rigs" (not the rest of the set). I know it says it is 1/64, but on some discussions it is said that it is really 3.5 cm tall and 9 cm long (about 1 3/8" high and 3 5/8" long):

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If anyone out there has the two battle rigs, in your opinion, would they work for 15mm??? Or is that too massive for 15mm, given the type of truck?

Thanks so much.

CC
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Personal logo Ed the Two Hour Wargames guy Sponsoring Member of TMP10 Aug 2009 8:51 a.m. PST

Here's a pic, you decide. Sorry, not too clear but you get the idea.

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They really are sweet cars though.

Personal logo Ed the Two Hour Wargames guy Sponsoring Member of TMP10 Aug 2009 8:52 a.m. PST

And only $2.99 USD at Target.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP10 Aug 2009 9:13 a.m. PST

Ed,

Love that photo. Thanks so much.

Isn't an average human just barely the height of the front of a typical heavy tow truck?

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I'm trying to figure out height and length of the tow truck used on the set of the "Terminator: Salvation" film:

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I'm thinking it would be awesome to replace that gun with a box from which troops can fire. What do you think?

CC

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP10 Aug 2009 9:26 a.m. PST

I guess it would help if I knew what actual truck make/model they are calling "battle rig".

Any truck experts in da house?

CC

OldGrenadier at work10 Aug 2009 9:36 a.m. PST

I haven't seen them yet. They do look pretty cool though.

Thieses Inactive Member10 Aug 2009 9:55 a.m. PST

There are several different scales of vehicles being produced. Jada did something similar for the classic Speed Racer Cars they made last year. I have the Mach 5 in two different scales.

wehrmacht10 Aug 2009 9:55 a.m. PST

Way too big for 15mm IMHO.

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Thornhammer10 Aug 2009 10:06 a.m. PST

They're nice – and pre-made, and cheap – but they don't have QUITE the level of detail I'd like to see.

They have window armor, for instance, but it's just part of the paint job. Nothing you can't fix with a little work, though.

I have one of the Battle Rigs, and I suspect it'll be big for 15mm – it isn't Hot Wheels scale, it's somewhat bigger (maybe *actual* 1/64th).

Top Gun Ace Inactive Member10 Aug 2009 10:36 a.m. PST

Looks like a great idea for Car Wars battles.

The Challenger looks sweet, and I think one of the others is a 'Cuda.

cloudcaptain10 Aug 2009 11:22 a.m. PST

You missed the first boat CC :)

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Thornhammer10 Aug 2009 11:44 a.m. PST

Plenty of boats left. The captain only sounded the "abandon ship" alert a few minutes ago.

I just hope CC doesn't get in the escape pod with the bear!

('cuz what you got is what we need and all we do is dirty deeds…)

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP10 Aug 2009 12:08 p.m. PST

CloudCaptain,

Nice thread. Though there's not much there about the compatibility of the "battle rigs" with a specific figure size/scale:

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The two rigs seem a bit small for the other cars in the series, so they can't possibly be the same scale.

The photo Ed provided above is fantastic. Almost makes it look 1/87.

However, I would like to know what make/model the truck is, so I can decide once an for all if the proportions are right (mainly height of the figure to height of front hood).

Does anyone know?

Thanks.

CC

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP10 Aug 2009 12:20 p.m. PST

Well . . . I guess I may have my answer now.

It seems I'm not the only one who sees the difference between the battle rigs and the other cars in the Jada "1/64 series":

"Heres one from the 1/64 line. This particular one is actually 1/87 and the only non-licensed car in the line………"
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"Here is a pic of all the 1/64 scale Battle Machine cars.
One thing to be noted is the 1/64 scale Battle Rig is not being sold in the 1/64 scale packaging. The rig in the 1/64 package is 1/87 scale."
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"They've previewed the 1/87 scale "Battle Rig" on their V.I.P. forums and it looks sweet. It is a semi with a ram plate up front and a gun turret where the fifth wheel should be."
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Most interesting.

CC

John Leahy10 Aug 2009 4:58 p.m. PST

I need to check these out!

Thanks,

John

SeattleGamer10 Aug 2009 7:02 p.m. PST

CC … IMHO the battle rigs should do the deed for your 15mm fix. They are NOT 1/64. As was pointed out above, while these are part of "Series 1" of this new Battle Machines line, the boxes actually state these two are 1/87 scale.

The rest of the vehicles would be way out of scale with 15mm, but as Eds comparison piccy showed, the rigs (being a different scale) actually look pretty darn good with 15mm figs.

The rigs are 3.75" long (from the spikes on the front bumper to those on the rear bumper), and 1.25" from the tires to the top of the cab (the smokestack and the twin-barrel weapon on the back stick up just a tad further).

There are no markings on these to indicate make or model

Steve

chironex10 Aug 2009 7:35 p.m. PST

1 The idea of Jada doing 1/64 vehicles with 1/64 labelled on the pack is laughable anyway.
2 DO SUSPENSIONS GET ANY LOWER? It's ok for Death Race and other organised autoduelling scenarios where the contests are organised on sealed roads, but it's not going to function adequately in any scenario where the road looks as dilapidated as the Carnarvon Development Road when the cars are so low they look like they'll run aground on a speed hump.

Personal logo The Beast Rampant Supporting Member of TMP11 Aug 2009 2:18 a.m. PST

The cars are more 20mm, but the rig isn't really appreciably larger than the 57' Chevy (probably less than 1/2 inch longer), making it more 15mm.

I agree about the suspensions. It'a like they couldn't be bothered to retool from the stupid low-rider suspensions that seem to be all the rage in the toy car market. Seriously mars an otherwise neat concept. I don't understand how gross impracticality appeals to so many car enthusiests.

And yes, they're under $3 USD at Target. So much for the infalabilitly of SprawlMart's Every Day Low Prices.

GiantMonster11 Aug 2009 4:53 a.m. PST

I bought mine from Wal-Mart for $2.97 USD each.

Personal logo Ed the Two Hour Wargames guy Sponsoring Member of TMP11 Aug 2009 8:40 a.m. PST

I'm not worried about the scale compared to figures because I plan on using them in a road combat game anyway.
So what I do is I'll play my normal game (ATZ) then when the figures reach the point where they are doing the car combat, I'll just flip to using these.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP11 Aug 2009 6:34 p.m. PST

I finally bought mine today, and already did some cosmetic work on it:

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chironex11 Aug 2009 7:12 p.m. PST

Rabban: 20mm? These must be a completely different size from all the other Jada toys I get.

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