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Cacique Caribe20 Sep 2006 3:08 a.m. PST

Pictors,

I'm curious to see what you did.

I am hoping to make the 4-5 terrain pieces somewhat high, with lots of ledges and cave entrances for the Goblins to enter and fire from.

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Pictors Studio20 Sep 2006 3:52 a.m. PST

Man, what a moron I am.

Here is the link : link

Cacique Caribe20 Sep 2006 5:42 a.m. PST

Looking for inspiration on what to make to represent the Goblin caves and tunnels outside of the domain of the dwarves.

I am thinking of a 2' x 4' gaming board made of MDF with 4 or 5 terrain pieces with Goblinish "caveworks" (maybe 2 large corner pieces, two long side pieces and a large stalagmite piece in the middle).

Has anyone attempted a Goblin domain cave system before? Any ideas?

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Phil Hendry Fezian20 Sep 2006 5:45 a.m. PST

Never made anything along those lines – I tend to use Dwarven Forge's 'Mastermaze' line of Caverns and Cavernous Passages. The initial outlay is expensive, but the quality is high, and you get quite a lot for your money. The DF stuff works pretty well for LotR – everything is marked, subtly, with inches, so you can leave the ruler in the drawer and just count the squares.

Cheers,
Phil

Pictors Studio20 Sep 2006 5:56 a.m. PST

CC,

Here is how I did some Tunnels for SST, they would work the same for Goblins tunnels too. The nice thing is you don't need a dedicated board with tunnels and they are modular.

If you are interested and have any questions email me at pictors@pictorsstudio.com

hurcheon20 Sep 2006 6:01 a.m. PST

Pictors

Is there is a link?

Cacique Caribe20 Sep 2006 7:04 a.m. PST

Pictors,

Wow. Very nice. That is more or less what I had planned for Shelob's lair!

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Andy Skinner Supporting Member of TMP20 Sep 2006 12:15 p.m. PST

Have you seen Thane's modular system?

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CooperSteveatWork21 Sep 2006 9:22 a.m. PST

I'm tempted to use Ainsty's cave sections one day…

Syr Hobbs Wargames22 Sep 2006 5:46 a.m. PST

CC I like how you used the glue to form the interior walls great idea!!!
Duane

Cacique Caribe23 Sep 2006 9:40 a.m. PST

Duane,

I think that is Pictor's idea.

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Cacique Caribe27 Sep 2006 5:44 a.m. PST

Ok. The MDF pieces are cut, sealed and I have already started with the polystyrene build-up.

Question:
Wasn't there a Goblin kingdom in "The Hobbit", with underground systems in the Misty Mountains?
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Cacique Caribe27 Oct 2006 10:46 p.m. PST

This is nice!!!

TMP link

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Cacique Caribe25 Jan 2007 2:23 p.m. PST

This looks pretty gloomy (at least one of the links should open):

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Cacique Caribe18 Apr 2007 8:13 a.m. PST

Great idea here from SciFi Gamer:

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Cacique Caribe19 Apr 2007 12:48 p.m. PST

One possible accessory option:

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Cacique Caribe13 May 2007 9:29 a.m. PST

This ebay seller seems to make a few interesting stalagmite pieces:

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Cacique Caribe14 May 2007 4:49 a.m. PST

Thread about the use of varnish to reinforce items made of plaster and hydrocal materials:

TMP link

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Cacique Caribe04 Jul 2007 5:04 p.m. PST

My project is finally becoming reality:

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Cacique Caribe04 Jul 2007 5:24 p.m. PST

And here is how it was done . . .

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I started with 2 inch polystyrene sheets (blue in the photos), with straight vertical cuts.

I then used a foam cutter and box cutter to give it more texture and ridges.

After that, I put each blue piece over a sheet of 1/2 inch pink polystyrene (also visible in the photos), and traced the outline of each blue piece.

With a box cutter, I cut the pink board to about an inch outside of the traced outline.

I then contoured the pink pieces to about a 45 degree angle, again using the foam cutter.

After that, I placed glued the pink and blue pieces together.

I then bought a small 1/4 inch mdf board (24" x 36" piece).

The combined polystyrene sets were then placed over the 1/4 inch mdf and outlines were drawn (from an inch to a couple of inches, in curved irregular patterns).

The mdf was then cut with a jig saw, the edges were slightly beveled with a box cutter and then sanded.

The polystyrene sets were then glued to the mdf. Spaces were filled using wood putty. Then they were slightly sanded. The flat tops were then brushed with two or three layers of wood glue as reinforcement.

Add rocks and sand to taste. A light brush of diluted wood putty wouldn't hurt.

Brush prime it black, followed by this GW Moria color scheme, using craft paints (after much experimentation with paints with ElCid1099).

Each successive lighter shade should be drybrushed less heavily than the previous shade. The initial base shade should also be heavily drybrushed (not wet-painted on as a solid base):

* Americana Deep Midnight Blue DA166 (yes blue – trust me)
* Anita's Charcoal 11086
* Americana Slate Grey DA68
* Folk Art Basil Green 645

Blue First – Americana Deep Midnight Blue DA166 (lightened with a couple of drops of slate grey – you are aiming for something similar to GW Shadow Grey)

Anita's Charcoal 11086 (lightened with a drop of Slate Grey)

Americana Slate Grey DA68

Folk Art Basil Green 645 (lightened with about 30% Sand/Sable from below – again this should look similar to GW Rotting Flesh – use very sparingly – a very light drybrush is all that is needed)

If you get it right it's a good stand-in for…
GW Shadow Grey
GW Codex Grey
GW Fortress Grey
GW Rotting Flesh

In case you are wondering this is the Rock palette used in one of GW's online rock/stone tutorials. It looks pretty good and the blue is hardly noticable in the end but does help get that gloomy effect.

The 24" by 36" playing board is similarly made using 1/4 inch mdf.

It was sprayed with textured paint (the FleckStone type). After it was dry, it was primed with flat black spray paint and then drybrushed as described above.

Hope this helps.

CC

akudjinn05 Jul 2007 7:57 a.m. PST

Check out Bruce Hirst's cave system. I offer sets at my site and you can customize your layout any way you see fit. $2.00 USD per set.

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Feel free to email me any questions:

imartin@castlekits.com

Cacique Caribe04 Mar 2008 9:38 p.m. PST

In case it interests anyone, I've just found this close-up of the GW LOTR Moria Goblin sprue:

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Cacique Caribe24 Jun 2008 11:27 a.m. PST

This really puts my efforts to shame . . . :(

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Cacique Caribe03 Dec 2008 12:23 p.m. PST

This is interesting:

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Cacique Caribe16 Dec 2008 7:34 a.m. PST

Wow. Imagine this on a gaming table:

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Cacique Caribe16 Dec 2008 10:41 p.m. PST

This is a very practical layout:

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I wish I had seen that before I started. It would have given me ideas on how to do simple upper corridors.

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Cacique Caribe11 Jun 2009 4:16 a.m. PST

Is this a NICE set up or what?

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Bottom: link

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Cacique Caribe11 Jul 2009 12:12 p.m. PST

This looks cool:

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Now, foor something like Morlocks, there have to be remnants of structure or technology that was once fully operational.

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