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Cacique Caribe29 May 2006 6:39 p.m. PST

Are these the most comprehensive lists available for the creatures H. Floresiensis and early Australians may have encountered (around 50,000 BCE)?

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lostkingdoms.com/facts

Recent info on H. Floresiensis:
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Thanks.

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Cacique Caribe29 May 2006 6:42 p.m. PST

National Geographic article and links on early Australians and possible effect on local megafauna:

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Cacique Caribe29 May 2006 7:06 p.m. PST

This is all I could find on the animals encountered by H. Floresiensis:

"Flores has been described (in the journal Nature) as "a kind of Lost World", where archaic animals, elsewhere long extinct, had evolved into giant and dwarf forms through allopatric speciation, due to its location East of the Wallace Line. The island had dwarf elephants (a species of Stegodon, a prehistoric elephant) and giant monitor lizards akin to the Komodo dragon, as well as H. floresiensis, which can be considered a species of diminutive human."

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I guess it is simpler than I originally thought: "dwarf elephants . . . and giant monitor lizards akin to the Komodo dragon" and some normal-sized humans for the occasional encounter between Sapiens and Floresiensis?

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Personal logo jimbomar Sponsoring Member of TMP29 May 2006 8:39 p.m. PST

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slightly OT, but about 20 years ago as an archaeology student I participated in a dig at Tambar Springs in NSW under Professor Richard Wright it was at the end of the season, and we were looking for bone fragments of megafauna(although a whole Diprotodon skeleton was found nearby a few years earlier)

As I was digging I found in my sieve a 5cm fragment of what turned out to be a Diprtodon tooth. The Prof went wild, as the strata was very late and the find potentially confirmed his theory that suggested that megafauna species such as Diprotodon may have survived as recently as 6000 years ago.

I was the 'hero' of the dig that night(and pretty much the last time I was the 'hero' at anything!) . I was interested to see they are still talking about extinctions for Diprotodons in the links you posted as early as 50,000BP.

I think this is still a very contrversial area. I havn't kept up with the literture, but I think the 46,000BP dates are argued on the basis the later material was actually from disturbed sites.

Cacique Caribe29 May 2006 8:58 p.m. PST

That is fantastic first-hand information. Thanks!

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Chalfant30 May 2006 11:49 a.m. PST

A little late to the party…

I was looking at the above links, did not see the Haast Eagle (sometimes Haast's Eagle), maybe I missed it. New Zealander though, not Australian.

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Apologies if the link does not work.

But an eagle that could dive into you and kill you, that could get your attention, and they were around until fairly recent.

Cacique Caribe30 May 2006 9:42 p.m. PST

Here are also some maps of the areas during the Pleistocene:

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I guess it helps if I use the right search terms (like Australasia).

Boy, I am really still in the dark when it comes to that amazing part of the prehistoric world!!!

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Cacique Caribe30 May 2006 9:58 p.m. PST

All I need to do is make my Foundry pygmies look like this H. Floresiensis:

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Cacique Caribe01 Jun 2006 1:33 p.m. PST

On the Floresiensis controversy:
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On gaming with Floresiensis:
TMP link

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Cacique Caribe01 Jun 2006 9:03 p.m. PST

All this coexistence (Gigantopithecus, Neanderthalis, Sapiens, Floresiensis)!

physorg.com/news7950.html
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Cacique Caribe01 Jun 2006 10:04 p.m. PST

Whether in Europe or in Australasia, it seems that the late Pleistocene had various forms of hominids living simultaneously:
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Cacique Caribe01 Jun 2006 10:39 p.m. PST
Chupacabras03 Jun 2006 1:09 p.m. PST

These might be small enough to use as additional females and juveniles for those Foundry pygmies:
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Just do a little bit of hair styling with epoxy putty.

Cacique Caribe03 Jun 2006 1:37 p.m. PST

I had never thought of using the Pulp Neanderthals as Floresiensis. I will dig them up to look side by side and let you know! Thanks.

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Cacique Caribe03 Jun 2006 3:37 p.m. PST

Let's get right to the source and ask the chaps down under. They might have the invaluable insight we are seeking:
TMP link

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Cacique Caribe03 Jun 2006 8:43 p.m. PST

I guess I will have to order this book on prehistoric animals of New Guinea and Australia:

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