"How to ride out the apocalypse in a big city" Topic

"Thanks to wildfires, hurricanes, and certain leaders trading threats of nuclear annihilation over Twitter, you've probably been thinking a lot about disasters recently — specifically how not to perish in one.

And if you live in a city, this kind of thinking can be extra fraught. It's easy enough for doomsday preppers living in the woods to head for bunkers filled with canned food, but how are you supposed to get out of dodge when you don't even own a car?

Fortunately, or perhaps unfortunately, there are no realistic scenarios that would require a sudden, mass evacuation of an entire city…."

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Amicalement
Armand

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Lol. I think about it (a real nuke exchange Apocalypse) a lot less now. than I did when I was growing up in the 70s and 80s. A whole lot less.

Several survivalists, including Rudy Reyes (aka Apocalypse Man), have put out a couple of basic tutorials on how to evacuate a city quickly and what to take with you. As I discovered during Hurricane Harvey, it all comes down to how much thought you put ahead of time into your plan and your bugout bag. Everyone should pack and place their bag so that you're able to get out of the house in less than 10 min.

Dan
PS. These days sporadic near-miss encounters with today's clueless "zombies" worry me a lot more than a worldwide Apocalypse. :)

+1 Dan I worry a lot less about nuclear war than stupid people that run around or drive around glued to their "smart" phones.

I'm waiting for the phones to get smart enough that they shut themselves down if there's only one phone in a car…

Lol. Check out this "genius" phone user and how many near-wrecks she plays with in just a couple of seconds' time.

Damn zombie apocalypse!

Dan
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My wife's new Iphone (I7) senses car movement and asks to shut down. I like having that choice in a device.

My new Chevy has no CD player, CD players are no longer an option in new cars. You now get "bluetooth" technology that links to your phone, and your music saved there, directly to the radio.

Ummmm excuse me… I DON'T OWN A "SMART PHONE!

(smile)

Amicalement
Armand

Amazingly, thousands of Californians located close to the wild fires did not even stock a "bug out bag." The stories of people waiting until the flames were in their yard to even think about how to pack. Not to mention the people who blithely slept at night assuming "t can't happen to us"…it happened to my parent's friends who ended up with nothing.

Mark

I honestly don't understand how people can live like that, clueless of what to do when things get bad. Specially when they have front row seats to the event right there.

I've lived most of my life in a hurricane prone zone, so I always had a bug out bag since I was a kid. My brother and I used to call it our "runaway bag". Of course back then it used to have things like comic books, candy, flashlight and a battery radio (and we had spare batteries in a plastic pencil box). And a little bit of cash.

Nowadays it also includes dog food, water and medicines, and a short but very important checklist of things to do and to grab on the way out the door. One light bag is for my stuff and the other one is of things for the dogs. Oh, and I also have added duct tape and two boxes of freezer-thickness zip loc bags (quart and gallon size), for keeping things dry.

Here's what other people recommend to include, though they won't work as bug out bags if they become too heavy for you to carry:

ready.gov/build-a-kit

So, two days before our street flooded and Harvey decided for us that we were going to "shelter in place"*, I already had everything in it and was ready.

And I've essentially been crawling around with a broken back (right at L5 and S1) for these last 12 months! So there's really no excuse for people not to be ready at some level.

Dan
* I had already gotten okays from next door neighbors to live out of their empty 2-story homes if my one-story got flooded. That became my extended "shelter in place" plan.

Skipper: I use CD's at work, and so what I did was load the CD's into my computer at home, then copy the music into a memory stick and plug it into a USB port in my car. You can get memory sticks with low profiles that won't get damaged by sticking out of the port. A bit of a pain, but better than a cell phone (I don't have one either).

Sounds like I'll have to hold on to my two cars if I want music of choice. We don't have smart phones or use computer technology for music. In fact, we rarely play CDs. Arrrgh, the world in which we live!

I'm going to go ahead and get off the lawn now .

a Nuclear apocalypse is unlikely and if it happened being close to west point and relatively close to NY city -unlikely I would survive -BUT on the other hand if I did (or with warning ) we have a hunting lodge on 100 acres north of here and since it is an old Atlas F site (very updated )it is pretty well protected . There was a somewhat similar one for sale a few years ago for about 750K (our cabin is different and no landing strip and our underground is more updated but similar ) . Theirs was a featured house on Zillow a few years ago .

Those proponents of a 'sustainable' nuclear exchange would cite the daily rush hour as a controlled urban evacuation. Of course they also felt that by shoveling out a hole in the ground and covering it with a door piled with dirt would see you through as well.

FEMA was originally designed to deal with the evacuees and everything would be just fine. Of course, the smart money is on staying behind and looting. I would want my last car to be a Ferrari.

Ive always said the only 'real' risk of a Nuclear war, will be WHEN not if, but when some 'genius' becomes convinced they've figured out a way to actually make a "successful" First Strike against 'whoever'.

When I first saw the pilot of TOS BSG, it only reminded me of Pearl Harbor.
However when I watched the same of the revamped series decades later. I was impressed and terrified.
I remember thinking: "OMG, that 'could' actually work."

I was impressed that the writers actually looked around at the world we have now and asked:
"With such advanced early warning technology, how can we make a surprise attack believable?"

And then realized that the answer was in the question.
The same tech that protects, can also become the greatest danger.

How one can surprise attack? It's call an earth observing satellite, that really isn't, the EMP would do the rest at about 4 pm central time, a day before Christmas eve.

Why that time? Most people will be on the highways during g rush hour still, and one third of the military would be home on leave for the Holidays.

In about one week many people in the cities would have suffered some sort of cold weather injuries, no electric no heat, water in many of the pipes would have frozen, limited snow limited water, dehydration starts to kick in.

Many suburbs will burn from those trying to stay warm and do stupid things like burning junks of tire in the fireplace, don't laugh I have seen folks do it! Oh and don't forget fire trucks and all their computerized gizmos will not be coming not to mention all the little fires that the EMP may in theory have started as well.

It will only get worse from there, I have been in a place where the power was out for over thirty days in the winter, it really got ugly fast!

So there you are a quick run to the mall, store or on your way home from work when it happens at 4 PM most folks live 30 minutes from work and about 15 minutes from most major stores by car, now flip those minutes into miles, your wearing an average jacket or coat because it was just a quick walk to the car you won't be on in the cold that long, and your either wearing some sort of light dress shoes at work or tennis shoes for a quick run to the store, now you have X miles to get home in the snow or freezing cold and why do you have to get home? Cause little Bobby and Susie are waiting for you and at a little after 4 PM it will be dark soon!

Wow!

That's terrible REAL…

Amicalement
Armand

War Monkey

And you can bet that our "craziest" enemies have been planning for years (decades) for exactly that same scenario, and are simply waiting for all their pieces to be in place to execute it.

It's not about IF. It's about when.

Dan
PS. Phase One was to encourage and enable our dependence on digital means and their electronic circuit products. Our poor cojones (whatever we might still have left) are now laid bare and on the chopping block.
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Phase Two was to infiltrate our education system and help create our strong (nothing ever triggers them), attention-avoiding, self-reliant urban millennials, in their Che t-shirts: :)
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Well in Phase One the EMP burst would happen over the US, Europe and Western Russia, This would keep most of the world from jumping all over a country like N. Korea. The puppet on the worlds stage, the puppeteer we could say is "China" Que Dramatic music.

It's like some crazy Pulp Movie, you have this crazy guy running around doing bad horrible things, our heroes have been chasing this guy around the world for the longest of time coming close to catching him many of times, only having him just getting away at the last minute, only to find out there is this other guy that actually is the main villain who has been play the puppeteer all along.

Why, somewhere between 2020 and 2025 China will have over 20 million men and NO WOMEN of marrying age! So how do you make 20 million men happy! You raid your neighboring countries for their women!

To do so, you EMP those who can stop you. Now you are able to move about the cabin freely.

So you have a country like N. Korea, a little no nothing place who is acting badly, if such a plan is found out, coming from N. Korea then shame on N. Korea, and China will step in and put it down and done is done but if no one finds out this plan or suspects such a plan is in play well then the man behind the curtain wins!