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Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP30 Sep 2017 3:53 p.m. PST

He was just hitting back at my snotty comments that one might construe as a Personal Attack.

If I take no offense at his counter-punch, where is the crime?

So I ask Dear Editor to unleash Otto.
And if he doesn't see fit to do this, I ask to share his sentence. I did provoke him, after all. Keep me in the Cooler until he is released.
He can teach me the tenor parts in Figaro, and I'll be having him singing Dwight Yoakam. Imagine our duet on Streets of Bakersfield!

Cacique Caribe30 Sep 2017 5:00 p.m. PST





goragrad30 Sep 2017 10:01 p.m. PST

That is just carping Dan.

Teppsta01 Oct 2017 1:53 a.m. PST

Maybe you shouldn't make snotty comments ….

altfritz01 Oct 2017 3:32 a.m. PST


Dynaman878901 Oct 2017 4:26 a.m. PST

> That is just carping Dan.


Darrell B D Day01 Oct 2017 5:14 a.m. PST

Does that include postage and packing? If so, I'll take one please, even though I don't know what an Otto is.


David Manley01 Oct 2017 5:24 a.m. PST

Fee Otto with every six pack of Tango? :)

Legion 401 Oct 2017 5:31 a.m. PST

FREE OTTO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cacique Caribe01 Oct 2017 6:09 a.m. PST

Winston: "If I take no offense at his counter-punch, where is the crime?"

The crime was supporting Tango, of course. You must surely know that by now.

And it was only a matter of time before some opportunity presented itself to turn this into another grand DH "learning" opportunity, about the whos mattering more than the whats.

TMP link


Hafen von Schlockenberg01 Oct 2017 7:53 a.m. PST

Question, Winston: did you PM Bill? If so,Otto should be out. It's in the FAQ:

If the victim asks us to,we will let you out.

Your position should be obvious,from your post here,but maybe a statement on the Message Boards doesn't count as an "Official" petition.

Personal logo The Beast Rampant Supporting Member of TMP01 Oct 2017 8:40 a.m. PST

In the seasonal parlance, you may decline the penalty.

skippy0001 Supporting Member of TMP01 Oct 2017 9:59 a.m. PST

SHOOT THEM ALL!!!!!!!….if that's OK….(having a Stalin moment..)

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP01 Oct 2017 10:33 a.m. PST

I didn't know that. So, I just asked.

Cacique Caribe01 Oct 2017 12:49 p.m. PST


Seems Otto is fine and doesn't want any help. He is ok serving the rest of his sentence.

PS. Hey you TMP "Law"experts … If I were to paste his exact comment here, will it get me sent to the DH too?

Personal logo Doctor X Supporting Member of TMP01 Oct 2017 12:56 p.m. PST

Lets find out

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP01 Oct 2017 1:26 p.m. PST

Dan, I would assume that Otto would have given permission for you to post his comments.
I kind of suspected he would prefer to take his "punishment" like an injured martyr.

I remember several members being in a huff some time back when a VIP (naming no names) revealed the contents of private communications here.
Silly questions about getting the DH for revealing that show you don't really grasp the point.

Do what you want and Bill will do what Bill does.

How many times must people be told to not expect logic here? Do you have to be hit over the head with examples? Apparently.

I have stopped saying "Bill's house, Bill's rules!", not because it's not true but because it's hackneyed and trite.
What makes you think he answers to you? That's the most puzzling thing behind the "Free XYZ!" threads. The idea that he owes you or anybody or the "victim" an explanation.
TMP doesn't operate by Roberts Rules or the Constitution or anything rational. Get used to it.

Way back, I used to brag about how I knew just how far I could push things, how close to the thin ice I could skate, etc. I was wrong! grin imagine that.
Having gotten away with things in the past is no guarantee that you can in the future.
So there is nothing in the FAQ about links and attribution? So? There's nothing forbidding links to child porn sites either, nor advertising for a hit man to kill your ex.
I think the fuss we had about a poll to ban Holocaust denial was relevant. Why should we need a poll? Common sense should have led Dear Editor to ban it. It wasnt in the FAQ? Again, so what?

The sooner TMP cleans up its messy habits, the better off it will be. And that includes DISCIPLINE in posting stuff properly from other sites. Follow the universal rules. Is it that hard?

Cacique Caribe01 Oct 2017 1:37 p.m. PST

Ok. I don't know where that Holocaust denial Discussion took place in this day and age*, but it sure gets mentioned a lot over here … though mostly by you.

So, for your own benefit, please provide the appropriate source link to said discussion.

* And By "Holocaust" I'm assuming you mean WW2, and mainly the Jewish one, right?

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP01 Oct 2017 2:07 p.m. PST

I give up. A need a "banging head on desk" animated gif.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP01 Oct 2017 2:08 p.m. PST

And since Otto will not entertain an early release, I withdraw my offer to share the DH until he gets out.

foxweasel01 Oct 2017 2:27 p.m. PST

It is Bill's site and his rules. However, people pay for a service, if that service is not forthcoming or they are abused whilst paying for that service, then they will no longer pay and the site will die.

Personal logo StoneMtnMinis Supporting Member of TMP01 Oct 2017 2:29 p.m. PST

"because it's hackneyed and trite"


If you are calling me hackneyed and trite you will need to take a number and get in line. Now serving #327! grin


TGerritsen01 Oct 2017 3:05 p.m. PST

Assuming there are universal rules to the internet brings to mind the old saw about the word assume. Something something, you and me.

What gets you dh'd here gets you lauded on other sites. Attribution rules on most sites very regularly ignore those quaint things called laws or event standards.

The internet remains the the west, maybe not as wild as it once was, but wild enough just the same.

cleo liebl Inactive Member01 Oct 2017 5:46 p.m. PST

Too much testosterone.
Let's talk about war gaming. I have British ladies (side saddle, thank you) with tea cups dangling off their back packs.

How does one paint a tea cut, with a gold ring? Cleo

Personal logo Narratio Supporting Member of TMP01 Oct 2017 6:57 p.m. PST

@cleo liebl – For a start, British ladies would never have the tea cups dangling like that, not even on campaign. That's why the wicker picnic basket was developed after all. And are these 15mm or 25mm?

cleo liebl Inactive Member02 Oct 2017 12:15 a.m. PST

British ladies
25 mm

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP02 Oct 2017 1:35 a.m. PST

Tea cups or stirrup cups?

Stirrup cups:


As you would know, stirrup cups were for the pre-hunt drink, usually a port or sherry, offered to a member of the hunt mounted on horseback and about to depart for the hunt. As they were held in the hand they did not require a flat base. The cups are traditionally made of silver & feature the head of the animal about to be hunted.

Legion 402 Oct 2017 6:54 a.m. PST

As requested … [URL=]


Legion 402 Oct 2017 6:58 a.m. PST

Another fav of mine …


Hafen von Schlockenberg02 Oct 2017 10:07 a.m. PST


Wolfhag02 Oct 2017 12:32 p.m. PST

Free Otto!!!!!

He does a lot to increase your page views. You cannot afford to keep him in the DH.


Legion 402 Oct 2017 12:44 p.m. PST

thumbs up

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP02 Oct 2017 5:04 p.m. PST

But he's not in the DH. He's sulking in his tent. Or tomb. I can't keep it straight anymore.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP02 Oct 2017 5:07 p.m. PST

TMP link

For you, Dan. The Holocaust Denial thread.

Hafen von Schlockenberg03 Oct 2017 5:20 a.m. PST

Dan's not here,man.

Legion 403 Oct 2017 6:04 a.m. PST

Actually I think Otto is on vacation … so … He has better things to do I'd think.

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