| Cacique Caribe | 18 Feb 2007 4:13 p.m. PST |
Lelandd, Check out this auction: auction CC |
| jpattern | 18 Feb 2007 4:58 p.m. PST |
Come on, won't *someone* sculpt an Entelodont for Leland?
(And the rest of us, too.) |
| Prophet | 18 Feb 2007 5:20 p.m. PST |
It's on my to-do list. Lot's of prehistoric beasties are far more interesting to me than the made up fantasy versions. |
| Cacique Caribe | 18 Feb 2007 6:19 p.m. PST |
I haven't even had a chance to get started yet. So, if Prophet gets to it first, I would love to see what it looks like! CC |
BlackWidowPilot  | 18 Feb 2007 11:21 p.m. PST |
<<It's on my to-do list. Lot's of prehistoric beasties are far more interesting to me than the made up fantasy versions.>> To HELL with the  ing to-do list!! Just GET IT DONE!!  IMHO these cute 'n cuddly lil' piggies are long past due for 28mm gamers to enjoy… Leland R. Erickson
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| BlackWidowPilot | 18 Feb 2007 11:22 p.m. PST |
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| Cacique Caribe | 19 Feb 2007 7:11 a.m. PST |
Leland, I promise I will get to them soon. And you will be the first to see them! CC |
| Patrick R | 19 Feb 2007 7:22 a.m. PST |
Found a link to a cute critter that some here might like : link |
| BlackWidowPilot | 19 Feb 2007 11:52 a.m. PST |
Patrick R, it's an "Elepig" according to one of the FX posters; simply hilarious looking yes, but not a proper *Entelodont!* CC, I hope you're getting the size of the piggie right; they're damn big beasties! Also, consider fiddling around with a separate *saddle* for the critter. IMHO it'd make a fantastic and hilarious mount for both fantasy and sci-fi characters/cavalry troopers-from-Hell, etc. Leland R. Erickson
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| Cacique Caribe | 19 Feb 2007 1:13 p.m. PST |
"I hope you're getting the size of the piggie right; they're damn big beasties!" Leland, Here are the numbers I've come up with when scaling those puppies for gaming with figures sized 28mm-30mm: Total length: 48.75mm (Length of head 10mm, Length of neck 13.75, Lenght of body 25mm)
Total height: 32.5mm (if using a 30mm human figure as a comparison basis) Does that sound about right to you? CC |
| Cacique Caribe | 19 Feb 2007 1:16 p.m. PST |
Previous thread on this topic: TMP link CC |
| Prophet | 19 Feb 2007 8:28 p.m. PST |
Heights I've seen are 6-7 feet tall. Head length is 3 feet (There's a pic with a skull somewhere). Size I've seen described as cow, buffalo, and small rhino. So what you have CC should work. Height 30-35mm. Head length should be 15 though. Total length could be up to 50mm. You're definitely on track. |
| BlackWidowPilot | 19 Feb 2007 11:03 p.m. PST |
<<Heights I've seen are 6-7 feet tall. Head length is 3 feet (There's a pic with a skull somewhere). Size I've seen described as cow, buffalo, and small rhino. So what you have CC should work. Height 30-35mm. Head length should be 15 though. Total length could be up to 50mm. You're definitely on track.>> <scowling at his metric ruler> Are you sure about these measurements? It's late, yes, but it somehow seems smaller than the cuddly lil' brute menacing Olduvai George on his homepage…. or is it just late and I need to stop looking at measuring devices (after mounting four Ikea glass display cases in the game room tonight)… Leland R. Erickson
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| Prophet | 20 Feb 2007 12:37 a.m. PST |
If you go with a simple 6'=30mm then 7 feet tall and 10 feet long would come out to 35mm tall and 50mm long. The length may be a bit generous, but there doesn't seem to be much consensus from my admittedly brief search. How big did you have in mind? |
| Cacique Caribe | 20 Feb 2007 5:55 a.m. PST |
Hey guys, I worked on an armature of sorts last night and came up with a body "dolly" that, in concept, may be used to create consistent Entelodont body types that may be fleshed out with Green Stuff. I will take some photos tonight. The head is next. Little by little, I think it can be done in our lifetime. CC |
| BlackWidowPilot | 20 Feb 2007 8:16 a.m. PST |
<<If you go with a simple 6'=30mm then 7 feet tall and 10 feet long would come out to 35mm tall and 50mm long. The length may be a bit generous, but there doesn't seem to be much consensus from my admittedly brief search. How big did you have in mind?>> link paleocraft.com/dinohyus.html The second site in particular is what I'm talking about… heeeeeere piggy! Piggy! PIGGY!! Leland R. Erickson
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| Cacique Caribe | 20 Feb 2007 8:24 a.m. PST |
That is wonderful! Between that and the other images I have collected, I should be able to replicate the bulk when I flesh out the "dolly". I will keep you updated on developments. CC |
| Cacique Caribe | 20 Feb 2007 11:58 a.m. PST |
Lots of Entelodont photos on Cave Wars now!!! CC
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| Cacique Caribe | 20 Feb 2007 7:12 p.m. PST |
Leland, Take a look at "When Shagrat Met Piggy":
link Let me know what you think of this polymer clay armature for the body. Thanks. CC |
| BlackWidowPilot | 21 Feb 2007 11:10 a.m. PST |
CC, excellent! You've captured the size and proportions of the Entelodont's body quite handsomely indeed! And Shag better watch his back around that thing! These "piggies" IMHO make a Warg look like a Chihuahua puppy by comparison… Leland R. Erickson
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| Cacique Caribe | 21 Feb 2007 11:32 a.m. PST |
Leland, My wife is out of town for the next couple of days, so I should be able to attempt the head and neck armature next. It will be sort of like a filled-in skull that, I hope, will minimize the use of Green Stuff during the fleshing out of details. I'll definitely keep you in the loop, my friend. CC |
| Cacique Caribe | 21 Feb 2007 11:46 a.m. PST |
This other thread on the Sculpting Discussion board may provide additional suggestions on the armature and subsequent mould and casting process: TMP link As you can see, I am still not absolutely sure if a polymer clay (Sculpey) understructure or armature will result in a viable base for the model(s). CC |
