BlackWidowPilot  | 21 Apr 2006 1:14 p.m. PST |
Even so, looks like a real run on new dinos from Link & Pin Hobbies: link Leland R. Erickson
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| jpattern2 | 21 Apr 2006 1:56 p.m. PST |
I let Paul Ashton at Amazon Miniatures know that some of us would be very interested in an Entelodont mini. Send Amazon an e-mail; maybe we'll get one. |
| coryfromMissoula | 21 Apr 2006 2:15 p.m. PST |
Yeah, I want some in 28mm. |
| BlackWidowPilot | 23 Apr 2006 6:02 p.m. PST |
Actually, I should send Amazon the link to Oulduvai George's weblog, which has a superb rendering of an Entelodont -and a *small one* BTW!!- on the site's header for the home page! Niiice piggy…>;D Leland R. Erickson
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| jpattern2 | 24 Apr 2006 8:01 a.m. PST |
Here it is, Leland: olduvaigeorge.com
("Olduvai George," I love it! I think I now have a name for my archeologist mini.) |
| Cacique Caribe | 24 Apr 2006 9:20 a.m. PST |
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| BlackWidowPilot | 24 Apr 2006 12:07 p.m. PST |
Now just imagine the fun if one could *saddle break* one of these critters….Mwahahaahaaa!!! >;D Leland R. Erickson
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| BlackWidowPilot | 08 Jul 2006 9:22 p.m. PST |
<sigh> Still no one seems to want to produce this prehistoric piggie-from-Hell….;p Leland R. Erickson
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| CooperSteveatWork | 09 Jul 2006 4:32 a.m. PST |
Imagine a goblin riding one of those… |
| BlackWidowPilot | 12 Jul 2006 6:25 a.m. PST |
<<Imagine a goblin riding one of those…>> LOL!! A *goblin* would be little more than a *snack* to a full-grown Entelodont! Remember, the one rendered on Olduvai George's website is an *adolescent*, as an adult would stand 7 feet at the shoulder! More like a fully armoured *Uruk hai* would be riding one of those brutes (and no doubt loving every minute of it until the Entelodont decides to snatch an arm or leg off the rider when he gets a bit peckish…>;D Leland R. Erickson
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| Cacique Caribe | 26 Jul 2006 7:53 a.m. PST |
Leland, now you've got my interest in the critter. CC
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| BlackWidowPilot | 26 Jul 2006 6:39 p.m. PST |
<<Leland, now you've got my interest in the critter.>> Picture this: a fully armoured greater orc/Uruk Hai armoured like a cataphract, as much to protect him from his mount as it is from enemy action. A long spear pole lashed to the back of the Entelodon'ts neck, projecting out well past his snout. Dangling from the end of the spear pole is a live hobbit tied to a thin rope, to serve as "motivation" to keep the Entelodont pointed and moving more or less in the right direction. There. You get the idea…>;D Leland R. Erickson
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| Cacique Caribe | 03 Aug 2006 2:30 p.m. PST |
Any word yet from Amazon? CC |
| BlackWidowPilot | 04 Aug 2006 6:52 a.m. PST |
Nope. Nada. From no-one at all…<sniff> <sniff> <sob>:( Leland R. Erickson
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| RexMcL | 09 Aug 2006 10:06 p.m. PST |
There is an old post at Olduvai George that has more Entelodonts. link Also, there is a book called (I think) "The White River Badlands" which has some pictures and descriptions of Entelodonts. Check the library. It was published by the South Dakota School of Mines and Technology |
| Cacique Caribe | 21 Aug 2006 2:10 p.m. PST |
HAG53001 could, with a little greenstuff, look like an entelodont! link It even has the hyena-like rear legs! picture
link What do you think? CC |
| BlackWidowPilot | 21 Aug 2006 3:00 p.m. PST |
<<What do you think?>> More like *what do I know*: "Leland can't sculpt to save his immortal soul!" THAT is what I know! LOL!! >;p <sigh> So I wait here and pine hoping against hope that someday some talented sculptor will see the light and bring the "Pigs from Hell" to us in all their 28mm glory! Until then I'll just sit here in the dark…<sniff><snivel> >;D Leland R. Erickson
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| Cacique Caribe | 21 Aug 2006 4:24 p.m. PST |
Leland, Send me the piggie on that site, and I will send you an entelodont. CC
email me at: daniel DOT martinez1 AT sbcglobal DOT net |
| BlackWidowPilot | 23 Aug 2006 5:41 p.m. PST |
<<Send me the piggie on that site, and I will send you an entelodont.>> CC, many thanks for the kind offer, but I'll pass; I need a whole pack of these lil' piggies, so I'll just hold out until someone in the industry sees the light…>;D Thanks again! :D Leland R. Erickson
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| Cacique Caribe | 26 Aug 2006 1:26 a.m. PST |
Leland, Check these out:
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link Someone just needs to sculpt them for 28mm now. CC |
| BlackWidowPilot | 26 Aug 2006 12:02 p.m. PST |
CC, UN-BEEEE-LEEE-VABLE!!! The detailing on the larger toy is IMHo the better of the two. You're right, we're getting *closer*…>;D Leland R. Erickson
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| Johnnie the Foreign Bugger | 27 Aug 2006 6:35 a.m. PST |
Guys, you should change over to 15mm(18mm)…
Gar'arryds from Hobby Products now OOP Demonworld/Isthak would be what you need: link 18th 'view' link on the page. I don't know how to link straight to the picture as it's Java Script thingie… |
| BlackWidowPilot | 28 Aug 2006 7:40 a.m. PST |
<<Guys, you should change over to 15mm(18mm)… >> No way; all I don't need is another scale! LOL!! ;p <<Gar'arryds from Hobby Products now OOP Demonworld/Isthak would be what you need: link 18th 'view' link on the page. I don't know how to link straight to the picture as it's Java Script thingie…>> Seen 'em. And I say it ain't an Entelodont! So like the little girl in th eclassic 1920s New Yorker cartoon, I say to Hell with it! >;D Cheers! Leland R. Erickson
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| Cacique Caribe | 28 Aug 2006 8:40 a.m. PST |
Leland, Don't give up yet. I am still planning on getting a suitable boar to convert and send your way. Once the conversion is made with greenstuff, I will make a latex mould of the areas added. This will also be sent your way, so you can make quick replicas of the head and shoulder structure. I do have one question: If the humans are 28mm, how tall should the boars be to be suitable entelodont candidates for conversion? CC |
| Cacique Caribe | 28 Aug 2006 8:48 a.m. PST |
Are these the proportions you want? picture The entelodont is 16.6% taller than the human, and the human is 28mm to the top of his head, then the entelodont would be about 33mm at the shoulder. Do you know any boars that are that height at the shoulder? What manufacturer/link? I just have to try this out man. Of course, if the humans are taller (to the top of their head) then the entelodont will have to be taller at the top of the shoulders. CC |
| Cacique Caribe | 28 Aug 2006 8:50 a.m. PST |
Leland, Which human figures are you using? How tall are they? CC |
| BlackWidowPilot | 28 Aug 2006 6:39 p.m. PST |
<<Which human figures are you using? How tall are they?>> I use a mix of old Metal Magic, current Obelisk Miniatures, Copplestone (Foundry) and Copplestone (Castings), Old Glory, Crusader Miniatures, and so on. Pretty solid 28mm figures, so my Hawgs from Hell must be proportionally compatable. >;D Leland R. Erickson
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| Cacique Caribe | 28 Aug 2006 7:42 p.m. PST |
URUK-HAI? Now you are teasing me Leland. Ok. What boars would you buy? (I need to know if I am to purchase a prototype). CC |
| BlackWidowPilot | 29 Aug 2006 8:09 a.m. PST |
<<URUK-HAI? Now you are teasing me Leland.>> Never. >;D <<Ok. What boars would you buy? (I need to know if I am to purchase a prototype).>> Hellifiknow! Guess it's just a matter of going to Toys R Us and finding one that's close enough for (Imperial) government work…>;D Leland R. Erickson
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(P.S. When someone gets a decnt Entelodont pack in production, I swear I'll buy it, paint it up, and post it at Metal Express with stats for CARNAGE! Remember: The Orb of Change gets *bored* very easily, and thinks that dropping some new flora and megafauna on the world of CARNAGE! every now and again is a great way to get a few cheap laughs…) |
| Cacique Caribe | 22 Jan 2007 9:39 a.m. PST |
OK. I don't know what happened to the boar in the link above. I think it would have been absolutely perfect for the body. Anyway, Leland . . . find the right body and I will do what I can with the head. CC |
| BlackWidowPilot | 22 Jan 2007 11:04 p.m. PST |
<<OK. I don't know what happened to the boar in the link above. I think it would have been absolutely perfect for the body. Anyway, Leland . . . find the right body and I will do what I can with the head.>> CC, dude, after the job you did on those Thermians, you have GOt to be kidding!!! LOL!!  I'd rather you srat from scratch with a brass wire armature and sculpt a master from the ground up! I have every faith in you… Leland R. Erickson
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| Cacique Caribe | 23 Jan 2007 6:28 a.m. PST |
Dude, I am just an amateur! However, I will try to come up with something in the coming weeks. Check your emails for news. CC |
| BlackWidowPilot | 23 Jan 2007 7:22 a.m. PST |
<<Dude, I am just an amateur!>> So was Lincoln… <<However, I will try to come up with something in the coming weeks. Check your emails for news.>> I will. May I suggest a brass wire armature for a starter, then build up the lil' piggie's carcass *solidly* around it so it'll withstand the vulcanizing process? Also, do you want me to do teh research on the hawg? Do you have a copy of WALKING WITH PREHISTORIC BEASTS to call yer own (I'll send you one if need be!)? Let me know if I can be of help… Leland R. Erickson
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| Cacique Caribe | 23 Jan 2007 12:17 p.m. PST |
As a matter of fact, I don't have it yet. Also, you are looking for an Entelodont for use with 28mm figures, right? I just want to make sure I scale things properly when I start on it (no earlier than the end of next week, though). CC |
| Cacique Caribe | 23 Jan 2007 12:22 p.m. PST |
Also, for a good 3-D reference, it might not hurt if I got myself a copy of this fella: link CC |
| Cacique Caribe | 23 Jan 2007 1:42 p.m. PST |
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| BlackWidowPilot | 24 Jan 2007 8:31 p.m. PST |
<<As a matter of fact, I don't have it yet.>> I'll arrange a copy for you ASAP… <<Also, you are looking for an Entelodont for use with 28mm figures, right?>> Yup. <<I just want to make sure I scale things properly when I start on it (no earlier than the end of next week, though).>> No rush at all. I am just happy that someone who can actually sculpt is tackling this challenge and shares my enthusiasm for things Prehistoric-with-an-ATTITUDE! I would strongly recommend that you refer to Olduvai George's rendering for the body proportions, as he seems to have an excellent grasp of how these critters should look (just keep in mind that the Entelodont on his website would be a *juvenile* rather than an adult!)… Leland R. Erickson
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| Cacique Caribe | 25 Jan 2007 5:45 a.m. PST |
"No rush at all. I am just happy that someone who can actually sculpt is tackling this challenge and shares my enthusiasm for things Prehistoric-with-an-ATTITUDE!" I don't know if I am that "someone who can actually sculpt", but I am willing to give it a shot, even if I miss the target while trying. :) CC |
| BlackWidowPilot | 26 Jan 2007 9:38 p.m. PST |
CC, don't sell yourself short! That Thermian is simply awesome! Leland R. Erickson
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| Cacique Caribe | 19 Feb 2007 1:16 p.m. PST |
Leland, Here are the numbers I've come up with when scaling those puppies for gaming with figures sized 28mm-30mm: Total length: 48.75mm (Length of head 10mm, Length of neck 13.75, Lenght of body 25mm)
Total height: 32.5mm (if using a 30mm human figure as a comparison basis) Does that sound about right to you? CC
PS. New thread on Entelodont project:
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| BlackWidowPilot | 14 Aug 2007 9:30 p.m. PST |
August 14, 2007, and STILL no ENTELODONTS!!!! AAAAAAAAAAGGGHHH!!!!!! Leland R. Erickson
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| BlackWidowPilot | 12 Oct 2007 8:40 a.m. PST |
And now it's *October,* and still NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ENTELODONTS!!!!!!!!!!! Yeesh! I have found Brontotheres, Megatherium (the one I recently sent CC is eating the tree in his front yard about now if the USPS has come through), sabretooths galore, and even a Therapsid, but not a single useable 28mm-ish Daeodon!! BAH!!!! Bunch of slackers…. Leland R. Erickson
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| BlackWidowPilot | 02 Nov 2007 7:42 p.m. PST |
November 2, 2007, and still not one measley little Enteoldont…. not even a Daeodon piglette to play with…. so sad…. they're sooo cute and cuddly! C'mon now! *Somebody* has got to do one of these wonderful Hawgs from Hell! Leland R. Erickson
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| Cacique Caribe | 03 Nov 2007 5:21 p.m. PST |
I'll pass this on to Warren. CC |
| BlackWidowPilot | 04 Nov 2007 6:26 p.m. PST |
Ya know, CC, I have always thought that the very idea of some mad scientist type trying to back engineer a bigger, meatier hawg for the holiday ham market, only to have that lil' money makin' scheme go terribly awry, would make a most entertaining pulp fiction scenario…. Come to think of it, didn't somebody just release a couple of sets of backwoods farmer types? Hmmm… the possibilities… Leland R. Erickson
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| Vermis | 05 Nov 2007 3:43 a.m. PST |
I'll pass this on to Warren. Huh? Whuh? Um… uh-oh. |
| BlackWidowPilot | 30 Nov 2007 5:10 p.m. PST |
And yet ANOTHER month is about to go by, and STILL NO ENTELODONTS!!! ARRRRRRGHH!!!!!!! Leland R. Erickson
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| BlackWidowPilot | 14 Dec 2007 8:34 a.m. PST |
Xmas almost upon us… still no Entelodonts….. Leland R. Erickson
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| Judas Iscariot | 14 Dec 2007 11:35 p.m. PST |
Jeebus! Go get yourself a miniature of a big razorback, and jam some toothpicks in its mouth…. Personally…. I don't think that apart from yourself… There has been a very big clamouring for Entelodonts… There does seem to have been quite a clammouring for Andrewsarchus Mongoliensis that was recently filled though… |
| noraneko | 15 Dec 2007 9:51 a.m. PST |
Filled, Judas? Really? Who sells them; I'd like to see them. |
