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wmyers29 Jul 2020 8:15 a.m. PST

This is so obviously bizarre it is astounding. It is George Orwell. A team of accredited medical doctors held a press conference at Washington DC [ link ] which was hosted by a US Senator.

It was a team of medical doctors endorsing hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for COVID. This is nothing new. Medical papers were published on the use of chloroquine during the SARS coronavirus. This panel of medical doctors declared that hydroxychloroquine has helped their COVID patients recover.

We have now entered the Twilight Zone. The National Post takes a COVID breakthrough and spins it to read "Among those front and centre in the clip is a Houston doctor who believes that demons have sex with humans as they dream, causing all manner of ailments." I didn't hear anything about demon sperm in her address. This was one doctor of many who spoke.

Dr. Simone Gold stated that "The pore size of cloth face coverings range from ~ 20-100 microns. The Covid virus is 200-1000x smaller than that, at 0.1 microns. Putting up a chain link fence will not keep out a mosquito. Even the most esteemed medical journals admit their purpose is to calm anxiety." She did not say anything about demon sperm.


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Possibly a story to generate discussion and incredulity, but real none-the-less.

MiniPigs29 Jul 2020 8:42 a.m. PST

I dont quite understand your position here. You think that the virus itself is no more lethal than the common flu but that we should all be taking Hydroxychloroquine to protect ourselves? Can these two competing theories coexist?

TMP link

I am not sure what the issue is here, all the savvy smart people wil drink quantities of Hydroxychloroquine solution kool aid and Deleted by Moderator and, meanwhile, all the dummies wont; isn't that survival of the fittest? Maybe CNN is doing the smart people a favor so that there isn't a run on these precious medical commodities? Plus, you'll be able to say "I told ya so".

I do like blogs by conspiracy theorists both because they both provide entertainment and also suggest we have a lot of work to do concerning mental hygiene.

To be fair to that doctor Stella Immanuel concerning demonic sperm, she also says there's a vaccine being worked on to make people less religious, and that lizard people have infiltrated the government. I consider that proof of her multidimensional talent and a true public service. She also uses the term "Double dog dare" which is a term no lizard person can possibly know and I wonder if it's some sort of secret message to the lizard people resistance movement? In any case, the fact that she invokes the Double Dog Dare- which is a very powerful incantation and the only one which is also proof of superior medical credentials- makes me feel assured that her wisdom will prevail.

YouTube link

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One wonders if the good doctor will be forced to resort to the dreaded Triple Dog Dare…or even, gulp, the Quadruple Dog Dare; a dare so potent that it is universally believed that its deployment could trigger the end of all life in the universe.

But I agree with you, whenever someone dons a white lab coat and dispenses medical advice during a pandemic (which it seems you believe doesn't exist) we should never ever check their credentials to see if they lick the walls when no one is looking. Anything less would be to become enslaved by that great lie…Science.

Incidentally, are you taking that Hydroxychloroquinine?

Ed Mohrmann Supporting Member of TMP29 Jul 2020 9:35 a.m. PST

Uh, maybe I am missing something, but who is
'Stella Immanuel' ?

MiniPigs29 Jul 2020 9:46 a.m. PST

Apparently she is the leader of the interstellar resistance movement against alien reptile persons who have infiltrated the government…oh yes, and also an advocate of Hydroxychloroquine as a cure for Covid-19.

Personal logo StoneMtnMinis Supporting Member of TMP29 Jul 2020 10:08 a.m. PST

She is an MD who for many years has used HQC successfully. She has used it in treatment of the wuhan virus with success, but the usual suspects have gotten the website and other information purged from social media.

This may help you:
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Nick Bowler29 Jul 2020 12:37 p.m. PST

Well, she is right about the alien reptile people who have infiltrated government. (Choose the government of your choice as the victims)

jdpintex29 Jul 2020 1:55 p.m. PST

I thought the Insectile people had eradicated the reptile people and are now our alien overlords.

It's hell keeping up with who's on first these days.

Ed Mohrmann Supporting Member of TMP29 Jul 2020 3:49 p.m. PST

Please pass the popcorn…

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian29 Jul 2020 8:47 p.m. PST

She is an MD who for many years has used HQC successfully.

Many years, for what? Covid-19, a virus, didn't hit the US until January 2020. It is a successful drug for the parasitic disease malaria and somewhat successful for autoimmune diseases such as lupus or arthritis. It also, on the label, caries a warning for arrhythmia. It is not an anti-viral such as remdesivir.

She also says Jesus is going to destroy Facebook's servers unless her video is put back up (assuming the dream related demon sperm or the alien DNA vaccine to make people hate religion don't get Big Tech first).

I know an alien believing, demon sperm believing, part time doctor, part time minister for Firepower Ministries with a medical degree from the University of Calabar in Nigeria and no peer reviewed work, no double blind study and standing next to 4 other guys in lab coats and simply making undocumented assertions certainly deserves every bit of credibility and credence given to the 99.9% of the US and indeed global medical community but just maybe checking out her claims for a hint of actual documented fact first might make sense?

Alternately, hold off on buying her particular hydroxychloroquine flavored tin hattery until we see if Jesus actually gets around to smiting Facebook's servers?

Personal logo Dan Cyr Supporting Member of TMP29 Jul 2020 9:51 p.m. PST

My God, how stupid or deranged can some folks get, just to get to stand in front of a camera and label themselves as such. ? +1 MiniPigs.

deephorse30 Jul 2020 1:20 a.m. PST

Thank you MniPigs. Your post is probably the best one I've ever read on TMP.

MiniPigs30 Jul 2020 6:27 a.m. PST

@Deephorse

Thank you but this is no time for personal credit. No, not at a time when Earth is threatened by fiendish, (undocumented) alien reptile people.

It is a good thing the recently activated Space Force is here to save the day for truth, justice and the American way.

*Minipigs dons cape, tin hat and dis-cinto-ray gun, marches in place and begins humming Space Force anthem*:

Dum dum dum dum, Dum dum dum dum

Dum da dummmmmm, Deleted by Moderator dee dum da dummmmmm.

wmyers01 Aug 2020 7:35 a.m. PST

Minipigs, I didn't relate my position. I only related another's position regarding the censorship and outright manipulation of a doctor's summit held on July 27-28.

The website is now back online and apparently thanks to a brand new Executive Order they're also back on Facebook.

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Facebook:

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They've also released a White Paper:

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They also reversed the Ohio law brought in on July 29.

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wmyers01 Aug 2020 9:13 a.m. PST

McKinistry, Dr Stella Immanuel is from Cameroon.

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Her experience with HCQ is probably from using it for malaria.

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MiniPigs01 Aug 2020 4:35 p.m. PST

Minipigs, I didn't relate my position. I only related another's position regarding the censorship and outright manipulation of a doctor's summit held on July 27-28.

The website is now back online and apparently thanks to a brand new Executive Order they're also back on Facebook.

*Minipigs looks around suspiciously*

Dark forces are at work…

No doubt that many places like facebook have been infiltrated by reptile people and prurient demons. It's a good thing that Dr. Immanuel alerted us to this fact. For all we know, most of the world's decision makers have been replaced by lizard people or injected with alien DNA.

I guess David Berkowitz was right when he said that that dog "Sam" was possessed by a 3,000 year old demon who told him to…"Do things"

Come wmeyers, together we will put a stop to this invasion!

*Minipigs and wmeyers don Space Force cape, metal space helmet and dis-cinto-ray-guns and march in step to repel invasion*

Dum dum dum dum, Dum dum dum dum

Dum da dummmmmm, Dum dee dum da dummmmmm.

wmyers01 Aug 2020 4:57 p.m. PST

I don't doubt dark forces are at work. Especially in your country.

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian01 Aug 2020 9:28 p.m. PST

McKinistry, Dr Stella Immanuel is from Cameroon.

That's nice however, as I said, the University of Calabar is in Nigeria.

By the way, a link to BBC pidgin? Is that really a thing?

Her experience with HCQ is probably from using it for malaria.

Which is as totally irrelevant to Covid as saying she's has great results treating bad haircuts. As a pediatrician, I'm sure her Covid experience is right up there with dermatologists.

The "White Paper" is simply an non-peer reviewed collection of other poorly sourced and selectively edited items with a heavy emphasis on HCQ as safe, in malaria and arthritis and lots of quoting that first debunked French study . No underlying data, no double blind studies. It would get a poor grade in an undergraduate biology class.

They also reversed the Ohio law brought in on July 29.

No law reversal. The Ohio Pharmacy Board bowed to a fairly vociferous wing nut constituency in Ohio.

I am still waiting on Jesus to smite Facebook.

I am still waiting on how any person, anywhere, anytime can give credence to the demon sperm lady although to be fair, that is not her dumbest rant.

The Illuminati being in league with a witch to corrupt the Nation using LGBTQ rights and children's toys is my absolute favorite.

I don't doubt dark forces are at work.

The Kardashians? Duck Dynasty? Personally I blame Wheel of Fortune.

Basha Felika02 Aug 2020 2:03 a.m. PST

McKinstry, you put things so much better than I could 👍

wmyers02 Aug 2020 9:21 a.m. PST

It's good to have you back. (No sarcasm, I know things can be taken the wrong way online.)

Her familiarity with using the drug would obviously provide experience and therefore knowledge of its effectiveness and how it functions.

I guess when you and I become MDs who have successfully treated 350+ covid19 patients over the age of 70 with this drug combination we could then fairly comment on the effectiveness of said drugs.

Until then.

I'm not sure what the other stuff you are mentioning is coming from. It certainly wasn't on that press conference.

It is telling the women, and especially the Black woman, are being attacked for what they stated but not the male doctors…

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian02 Aug 2020 1:17 p.m. PST

Her familiarity with using the drug would obviously provide experience and therefore knowledge of its effectiveness and how it functions.

Not as regards Covid. How it affects a parasitic infection or an auto-immune disease means nothing in relation to a virus. We are very familiar with albuterol as it affects asthma, that doesn't mean we know anything about how it affects liver cancer and saying we can infer one from the other is simply wrong.

I guess when you and I become MDs who have successfully treated 350+ covid19 patients over the age of 70

Given that she has not either, nor claimed to (She said 250 in press gaggle. As a pediatrician?), I suspect we are as qualified as demon sperm lady. My son the ER doc and his wife the family med doc, both at JBLM, certainly are as qualified (or more as neither is a big demon sperm believer)and think along with 99.9% of the profession plus CDC, NIH, AMA and WHO that it is bunk.

I'm not sure what the other stuff you are mentioning is coming from. It certainly wasn't on that press conference.

Feel free to check her out on YouTube (she has her own channel) or any MSM (who are MSM for very good reasons) including the more right leaning Fox, National Review, Forbes or Wall Street Journal. I don't think anyone, even that Bleeped text, would add an "oh by the way, I'm crazy"as a part of her press conference although "Covid has a cure" and "Masks are bad"pretty much qualifies as bat poop crazy per se.

Here is a Men's Health article. hardly a bastion of the left.
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And the BBC (where did you find that pigdin BBC?)
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A direct quote from a 2013 sermon-
"They turn into a woman and then they sleep with the man and collect his sperm… then they turn into the man and they sleep with a man and deposit the sperm and reproduce more of themselves," she said during a sermon in 2013.

It is telling the women, and especially the Black woman, are being attacked for what they stated but not the male doctors

Those two white male idiot Doc-in-a-box owners that tried to grab some press earlier with horse manure claims (and I believe got cited in that psuedo-white paper) got ripped and placed under investigation by the ER certifying bodies for their stupidity and venality.

When anyone regardless of race, creed or sexual preference wants to make a moron of themselves with demon sperm. I'm sure they'll get ripped and deservedly so.

Still waiting on Jesus to start smiting Facebook.

MiniPigs03 Aug 2020 8:05 a.m. PST

Still waiting on Jesus to start smiting Facebook


Holy reboot!

Nevermind the question "why would Dr. Immnanuel know about the lizard man invasion of Earth", the fact remains that she wears a white lab coat and that's good enough to launch an intergalactic crusade for dishonest and schizophrenic viewpoints to shape public policy. As Voltaire once said, I disagree with everything you say but I am willing to let you die for your right to say it.

Come men, let us band together to fight this sinister plot to suppress alternative facts.

*Basha Felika and McKinstry join Minipigs and wmyers in a march in place formation, turning to the right, then the left, then face forward again*:

Dum dum dum dum, Dum dum dum dum

Dum da dummmmmm, Dum dee dum da dummmmmm.

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian03 Aug 2020 9:01 a.m. PST
Basha Felika03 Aug 2020 11:18 a.m. PST

I think I'll sit this one out, if you wouldn't mind awfully 🙂

Dn Jackson07 Aug 2020 5:13 p.m. PST

" know an alien believing, demon sperm believing, part time doctor, part time minister for Firepower Ministries with a medical degree from the University of Calabar in Nigeria and no peer reviewed work, no double blind study and standing next to 4 other guys in lab coats and simply making undocumented assertions certainly deserves every bit of credibility and credence given to the 99.9% of the US and indeed global medical community but just maybe checking out her claims for a hint of actual documented fact first might make sense?"

Perhaps you'd believe it if it was in The Lancet? As I recall you jumped all over a story that turned out to have, "no peer reviewed work, no double blind study" because it was in a prestigious magazine. :-)

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian07 Aug 2020 8:38 p.m. PST

Perhaps you'd believe it if it was in The Lancet?

I would because a) as a reputable mainstream publication, they'll call themselves out and admit when they screw up b) a 200+ year history is a pretty good CV c) no demon sperm, ever.

The US of A, 4% of the people, 20% of the deaths. Wonderful job, maybe a) pathetic leadership or b) not enough alien DNA demon sperm doctors?

Dn Jackson09 Aug 2020 4:12 p.m. PST

Or, maybe you believe what you want to believe as does everyone else. Even a poorly written piece of garbage. But, because it fit your predetermined idea of what was going on you jumped all over it. It being garbage in The Lancet just helped.

People are willing to listen to her because she confirms their predetermined beliefs. I find her previous statements undermines her current claims.

The truly sad part is that this crisis has been so terribly politicized.

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian09 Aug 2020 7:21 p.m. PST

I choose to believe what the scientific consensus, if there is one, concludes.

If reputable mainstream science such as the AMA, NIH, WHO and CDC (who one of my daughter-in-law works for with her PhD in micro-biology) concludes with 90%+ certainty that a set of facts indicates something reasonable, I will accept that as fact not because it agrees with my preference but because it is by far, the most probable correct answer for that set of data.

I regret that politicization as well but wearing a mask, avoiding gatherings and washing hands should have never been an issue.

wmyers09 Aug 2020 7:28 p.m. PST

I regret that politicization as well but wearing a mask, avoiding gatherings and washing hands should have never been an issue.

It became an issue when it was not applied fairly, evenly and without bias.

Sergeant Paper19 Sep 2020 12:58 p.m. PST

Because SOME chuckleheads chose to make a TURRIBLE fuss about being infringed and got exemptions from what should have been applied across the board.

Where people actually:
1) listen to the science
2) stay home and don't mingle
3) wear their masks so they don't spread stuff when they do go out
The virus does not explode and spread like it does in the US Brazil and so on…

I regret like hell that some folks can't be arsed to take responsibility in a global pandemic and want to risk all of us for their own selfishness, but unless they come by my office here, I cannot put the fear of god in you to step up and stop doing and advocating things that are proven to spread the virus.

I am doing one thing to stop the spread of willful ignorance from here on out, though, and that is Stifling/Ignoring my TMP colleague W^^^^^ from Saskatchewan. Rail on, sir, post your screeds and rubbish links, I am done with your foolery. I'm tired of reading lies.

Feel free to complain about this post, it is crap like these threads that led me to dump my membership and visit TMP only on a casual basis. Binning me will not bother me.

wmyers19 Sep 2020 5:58 p.m. PST

It's only a lie when it's not true and fully known to be such when stated.

Not to mention when one condemns another for presenting information they don't like … Well, I think there's an Amendment because of just such attitudes.

But hey, I'm beginning to see they don't call it Covid-1984 for nothing, I guess.

ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP21 Sep 2020 3:16 a.m. PST

The business about the size of the virus compared to the size of the opening in the masks is irrelevant. The virus aren't floating around in the air naked. They're in tiny droplets of water expelled by the infected person. Those droplets are larger than the opening in the masks.

wmyers21 Sep 2020 7:02 p.m. PST

Excellent statement!

the size of the opening in the masks is irrelevant. The virus aren't floating around in the air naked. They're in tiny droplets of water expelled by the infected person.

If that's the case then of course!

A bit of research and we find the WHO states that may be the case.

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But they do state the following:


The physics of exhaled air and flow physics have generated hypotheses about possible mechanisms of SARS-CoV-2 transmission through aerosols.(13-16) These theories suggest that 1) a number of respiratory droplets generate microscopic aerosols (<5 m) by evaporating, and 2) normal breathing and talking results in exhaled aerosols. Thus, a susceptible person could inhale aerosols, and could become infected if the aerosols contain the virus in sufficient quantity to cause infection within the recipient. However, the proportion of exhaled droplet nuclei or of respiratory droplets that evaporate to generate aerosols, and the infectious dose of viable SARS-CoV-2 required to cause infection in another person are not known, but it has been studied for other respiratory viruses.(17)

One experimental study quantified the amount of droplets of various sizes that remain airborne during normal speech.

These studies found SARS-CoV-2 virus RNA in air samples within aerosols for up to 3 hours in one study (21) and 16 hours in another, which also found viable replication-competent virus.

Some studies conducted in health care settings where symptomatic COVID-19 patients were cared for, but where aerosol generating procedures were not performed, reported the presence of SARS-CoV-2 RNA in air samples

Further studies are needed to determine whether it is possible to detect viable SARS-CoV-2 in air samples from settings where no procedures that generate aerosols are performed and what role aerosols might play in transmission.

This their most recent report but it was published on July 9. Just a day after this was first published:

Mounting evidence suggests coronavirus is airborne but health advice has not caught up

Governments are starting to change policies amid concerns that tiny droplets can carry SARS-CoV-2. And after months of denying the importance of this, the World Health Organization is reconsidering its stance.

On 6 July, Morawska and aerosol scientist Donald Milton at the University of Maryland, College Park, supported by an international group of 237 other clinicians, infectious-disease physicians, epidemiologists, engineers and aerosol scientists, published a commentary1 in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases that urges the medical community and public-health authorities to acknowledge the potential for airborne transmission. They also call for preventive measures to reduce this type of risk.

The researchers are frustrated that key agencies, such as the World Health Organization (WHO), haven't been heeding their advice in their public messages.

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And it gets worse:

researchers used a tracer gas to show that aerosols carried on currents from an air-conditioning unit in a restaurant in Guangzhou, China, were to blame for an outbreak affecting ten diners from three separate families. None of the staff or patrons seated near other air-conditioning units were infected5.

Meanwhile, a tour-bus passenger in Hunan province in China infected 8 of the 49 people on the bus. One of those sat 4.5 metres away from the infected person and entered and exited the bus through a different door. "That excludes the possibility of contacting each other or [being] in very close contact," says Yang Yang, an epidemiologist at the University of Florida in Gainsville who is co-authoring a report on the case. "I think there is enough evidence for us to be very concerned in indoor environments, especially in confined spaces," he says.

Experiments are now painting a more complex picture that points to the importance of aerosols as a transmission route. A study published in May used laser-light scattering to detect droplets emitted by healthy volunteers when speaking. The authors calculated6 that for SARS-CoV-2, one minute of loud speaking generates upwards of 1,000 small, virus-laden aerosols 4 micrometres in diameter that remain airborne for at least 8 minutes. They conclude that "there is a substantial probability that normal speaking causes airborne virus transmission in confined environments".

Another study7 published by Morawska and her colleagues as a preprint, which has not yet been peer reviewed, found that people infected with SARS-CoV-2 exhaled 1,000100,000 copies per minute of viral RNA, a marker of the pathogen's presence. Because the volunteers simply breathed out, the viral RNA was probably carried in aerosols rather than in the large droplets produced during coughing, sneezing or speaking.

Other laboratory studies suggest that aerosols of SARS-CoV-2 remain infectious for longer than do aerosols of some related respiratory viruses. When researchers created aerosols of the new coronavirus, the aerosols remained infectious for at least 16 hours, and had greater infectivity than did those of the coronaviruses SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV, which cause severe acute respiratory syndrome and Middle East respiratory syndrome, respectively8.

USAFpilot22 Sep 2020 2:03 p.m. PST

The msm has become a joke. The are either uninformed, misinformed, or lying.

At some point in your life you will come across a story by the msm that you are intimately familiar with, maybe it has to do with your profession or something you are an expert on; then you will see how full of crap the msm is and you will realize that the twist and distort the truth on a daily basis.

WillBGoode30 Sep 2020 6:05 a.m. PST

Well, yet another reason to avoid these boards.

wmyers01 Oct 2020 5:45 a.m. PST

The msm has become a joke. The are either uninformed, misinformed, or lying.

So much so, there are journalists with integrity who are forming independent news media:

Former BBC journalist Anna Brees launches her own independent media brand in the UK called Brees Media.

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