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15mm and 28mm Fanatik15 Oct 2014 12:27 p.m. PST

Awesome. I would love to see these in 28mm.

Personal logo MrHarold Sponsoring Member of TMP15 Oct 2014 1:34 p.m. PST

Since it seems it didn't get into the article, this is 15mm scale.

NikkiB15 Oct 2014 4:32 p.m. PST

After all the comments yesterday about stepping on intellectual property, where are the comments today about the similarity to Halo?

kidbananas15 Oct 2014 5:11 p.m. PST

After all the comments yesterday about stepping on intellectual property, where are the comments today about the similarity to Halo?

Other than the fact that the buggy looks nothing like the HALO Warthog??

Very cool kit by the way.

NikkiB15 Oct 2014 5:21 p.m. PST

Ahhhh. So it's a matter of opinion. Yeah. I have to agree. Nothing is black or white. Everything is gray.

Personal logo MrHarold Sponsoring Member of TMP15 Oct 2014 5:48 p.m. PST

Besides it being a buggy… I'm not sure I follow the Halo similarities?

LoudNinjaGames15 Oct 2014 7:36 p.m. PST

The M-19 looks nothing like the Warthog

LoudNinjaGames15 Oct 2014 7:39 p.m. PST

FAV buggies have been in use for a long time in modern militaries. There aren't but the most passing of resemblances between the two vehicles beyond the fact that the two have four wheels and a crew-served gun.

-Eli

15mm and 28mm Fanatik16 Oct 2014 8:14 a.m. PST

The Warthog is basically an "armed dune buggy." Saying that the M-19 resembles the Warthog is like saying you can't have variations of armed dune buggies.

If anything, it's the dune buggy that has a right to complain.

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Heinz Good Aryan16 Oct 2014 9:28 a.m. PST

i don't think it looks like the halo warthog. it's a little too toylike for me, especially with that big top part, though, and there's no room in the front wells for the wheels to turn, meaning its always doomed to drive straight ahead! :-)

Personal logo MrHarold Sponsoring Member of TMP16 Oct 2014 10:29 a.m. PST

The roof, gunner and gun are all seperate pieces.

John Treadaway16 Oct 2014 11:13 a.m. PST

Heinz Good Aryan, since you didn't agree with my 'skid steering' approach on the other place (on the message boards TMP link ) that this subject was Tango'd, I have an alternative explanation: the Shadow RSTV link

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Now the Shadow's probably not going to actually happen in the real world but – irrespective of that – the idea was/is that its electric driven wheels can move further away from the hull or closer in, depending on transportation needs (ie in a narrow aircraft) or for use on the road.

If the wheels on this RAT are (like the Shadow) electric and on telescoping axles, how about, before the vehicle can turn, the wheels articulate outwards away from the hull, giving enough room to swivel as well? All controled by drive-by-wire computers?

Yeah, I know it's all piffle but – as Mr Harold said elsewhere – it's a 15mm wargaming toy… and the guns don't fire either! ;)

By the way, it looks nothing like that vehicle from Halo…

John T

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