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rct7500126 Feb 2025 11:23 p.m. PST

I have found that my GMB flags that I attached to units (with PVA glue) have faded while those that have not been attached are OK. They were not varnished and have been stored with units using flags from other manufacturers that have not faded.

Does anyone have any advice on what I may be doing wrong – or should do in addition to gluing them.

I have not received any replies to a number of requests for advice from GMB using their using the email on their website as well as the Contact Us form on their website.

I've included an image of before and now.

Thanks

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korsun0 Supporting Member of TMP27 Feb 2025 6:01 a.m. PST

Printer inks are, in the main, made from dye based inks. Dye based inks will oxidise in excessive light, whether UV or day light. The usual is about 6 months before they fade. Inks that are pigmented will last longer.
I found this out the hard way with some pictures I printed.

cfielitz27 Feb 2025 6:34 a.m. PST

korsun0, do inks from color laser printer fade the same way as inkjet printers?

korsun0 Supporting Member of TMP27 Feb 2025 6:50 a.m. PST

They should last longer because of the way they are applied (heat vs sprayed on). However, if you get a top quality ink and decent paper, then an ink jet should last.

Personal logo aegiscg47 Supporting Member of TMP27 Feb 2025 8:26 a.m. PST

Hobby Lobby and Michaels both have archival and UV sprays that will take care of this. Each can isn't cheap, but it does the job.

Fat Wally27 Feb 2025 9:54 a.m. PST

I tend to brush gloss varnish onto my flags to seal them and then matt varnish them. Never had any fading issues.

Andy Maloney27 Feb 2025 12:01 p.m. PST

Faded looks just fine, call them battle worn after all how long did flags hold their original color? Might have to give the units veteran status…. :)

But as others have said I use a matt varnish spray and so far, so good.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP27 Feb 2025 12:13 p.m. PST

My GMB Napoleonic standards showed some fading even when stored in a pitch dark attic. At least sone did and not others. Did temperature extremes play a part.

I just bought some new ones. Compared with two dozen metal figures and the time that went into painting, the cost is negligible.

GMB after sales service is superb and let me connect you to a discussion that I was involved in over a dozen years ago;

TMP link

Doug MSC27 Feb 2025 3:39 p.m. PST

I spray a matt varnish on mine and have never had any problem with them fading. They have lasted for years now.

plutarch6428 Feb 2025 3:26 a.m. PST

How old were the flags?

I had the same thing happen to a few dozen 15mm and 28mm Spanish and Portuguese flags of 2010 vintage. A long time ago and, as Liam's link suggests, a problem long since resolved.

Grahame gladly replaced many of my flags and I dare say there may be others of the same vintage which I am yet to apply, but after fifteen years it would be difficult to argue that the same duty of care applies.

No problem with the newer ones. They really are the most beautiful flags on the market in my opinion.

plutarch6428 Feb 2025 3:27 a.m. PST

And leave them unvarnished, as any spray will frost them.

rct7500101 Mar 2025 5:05 a.m. PST

Thanks for all the replies. Mine were purchased around 2009/2010 – so may have been affected by the issues referred to here and in some of the other posts.

Unfortunately, I have had no luck contacting GMB through any of the means noted in my original post.

Marcus Brutus Supporting Member of TMP01 Mar 2025 9:05 p.m. PST

And leave them unvarnished, as any spray will frost them.

Have never had that happen on any flag I have purchased or printed. I always spray.

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