hi EEE ya  | 19 Jul 2024 6:42 a.m. PST |
Hello everyone, Where can I find the list of all the distinctive colors of the British regiments sent to Crimea? |
GildasFacit  | 19 Jul 2024 8:45 a.m. PST |
Do you mean 'distinction' colours ? The cuff being the main item. try this discussion TMP link |
| 42flanker | 19 Jul 2024 10:55 a.m. PST |
I think 'distinguishing' for facing colours might be the happy medium.
Doesn't 'distinction' belong more to the area of awards, as in 'honorary distinctions' (known to most as "battle honours; or 'campaign' ditto?" |
| hi EEE ya | 20 Jul 2024 12:01 a.m. PST |
@GildasFacit
They were the same as Napoleonic until 1881? @42flanker
No in this case "distinctive" means a color that distinguishes one regiment from another. So we call it a distinctive color. |
| GildasFacit | 20 Jul 2024 12:57 a.m. PST |
Ask the guy who wrote it, not me. In essence I think they were very much the same, minor differences only. I go by their flag colours. Another term well used is 'facing(s) colour'. As a regiment was seen to 'own' a specific colour (even though thy were not unique) it WAS called a 'distinction'. Don't confuse meaning with common usage, particularly in the British army. |
 Artilleryman | 20 Jul 2024 2:59 a.m. PST |
The term referring to the collars and cuffs is 'facings' and the colour was the 'facing colour'. It was repeated on the regimental colour (flag) of most non 'Royal' regiments. 'Royal' regiments had a Cross of St George as the basis of their regimental colour. There were some exceptions so it is best to check each individual regiment (e.g. the Guards were a law unto themselves). Generally speaking I do not believe that there were any major changes from the facing colours of the Napoleonic Wars by the time of the Crimean deployment but I am happy to be corrected. |
| 42flanker | 20 Jul 2024 9:53 a.m. PST |
No in this case "distinctive" means a color that distinguishes one regiment from another.So we call it a distinctive color. I'm not sure who 'we' might be, but if eighteen regiments all have the same yellow coloured facings those are hardly 'distinctive,' but a regiment with yellow facings can be distinguished from those with facings of 'gosling green' or 'pompadour' (which being less common might be thought of as 'distinctive'). |
| 42flanker | 20 Jul 2024 10:13 a.m. PST |
Don't confuse meaning with common usage, particularly in the British army The thought never crossed my mind. I am blaming nobody, by the way.
I'd say Artilleryman's summary describes the essential position admirably. 'Facing colour' is indeed the simple term most commonly used. As far as I am aware, as indicated in "A General View of the Facings of the Several Marching Regiments of Foot," 'distinction in the same' identifies the variation or shade of facing colour that might distinguish a given regiment, as in 'Willow green,' 'Pale buff' or, 'Grey white.' |
 Old Contemptible | 20 Jul 2024 6:50 p.m. PST |
Assuming you mean facing colors and not flags. The internet is your friend.
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| hi EEE ya | 20 Jul 2024 11:31 p.m. PST |
@Old Contemptible Thank you for your help, I searched on my own and I found, everything is indicated in the M.A.A n°198. Now do you have the answers to the questions below? TMP link TMP link TMP link TMP link |
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