"German Cavalry Flags in WWI" Topic
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Colonel Bill | 17 Oct 2023 9:51 a.m. PST |
Question about German regimental colors in 1914. Germany was one of the few countries to carry its regimentals into battle, at least for the Guns of August campaign. I also know there was a standard pattern and for the infantry, at least, the background cross color was based on the shoulder strap color of the corps, eg, IV Korps – scarlet, so infantry flags all had the design of the picture below. This was based on a decree from the Kaiser in 1890. But what about the cavalry, was there a similar system for their flags? Given they were assigned to the various corps during peacetime (forming divisions and so on after the declaration of hostilities), I thought they might have followed the infantry system but a check of a few cavalry regiments against the peacetime OB showed the color schemes did not match. Any idea what process the Germans used to determine cavalry standard colors?
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ColCampbell | 17 Oct 2023 10:56 a.m. PST |
Asked and answered yesterday. TMP link Jim |
Colonel Bill | 17 Oct 2023 1:43 p.m. PST |
Well, kinda. Still not as much information as I need so I was hoping there might be someone else on this group who had a clue. |
Camcleod | 22 Oct 2023 1:53 p.m. PST |
Do you have access to 'Pro Gloria et Patria: Geschichte der Fahnen und Standarten der Königlich Preussischen Armee 1808-1918' by Redlin? It has pics of most German flags of the period. Or 'Ruhmreiche Fahnen deutscher Geschichte'. Not quite as extensive as the other but has lots of flag drawings. |
Dal Gavan | 23 Oct 2023 1:19 p.m. PST |
The Prussians during the early 1900's are the easiest German contingent to research, Camcleod. I think Bill's after the flags of the other contingents- Bavaria, Württemburg, Hesse, etc. That information is a bit harder to find, especially on the net. There's some B&W illustrations in Fiebig, plus some examples sprinkled through the Heer und Tradition plates. From memory there's some B&W photos in one of the Bavarian Army Museum year books, too, but they're in a box in storage and bloody hard to retrieve. Nor is my memory the most reliable. |
Colonel Bill | 25 Oct 2023 8:56 a.m. PST |
Camcleod, thanks for the tip. I actually was able to download a full and free digital copy of "Fahnenbilder \: Ruhmreiche Fahnen deutscher Geschichte \: die Fahnen und Standarten der alten Armee" from the University of Gdansk in Poland. Quite frankly, I found it quite detailed and extensive. Obviously it helps that I read German :). The URL for the download (button up at the top left next to HIDE DETAILS) and readable online edition is: link No luck on Redlin, but with this I think I can finally move forward and finish this project up, so thanx muchly and may the dice be forever in your favor! Colonel Bill |
Camcleod | 25 Oct 2023 9:36 a.m. PST |
Happy to be of help. Some years ago a member here sent me copies of those works when I was researching some early German flags. As for the Redlin books I gather that only a handful of copies still exist ?? Found one set in the Toronto Canada public library. |
Dal Gavan | 27 Oct 2023 5:21 a.m. PST |
That's an excellent link, Bill. Thanks. Now to find which book carton my Langenscheidt is in….. |
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