"Russian Sword Knots?" Topic

Hi all

I am looking for information on Russian Sword Knots; what I "need" right now is Cavalry (privates, NCOs, musicians, officers), for the 1805-1807 timeframe.

If there is an overview covering also later periods, and infantry and artillery, as well, that's fine for me, of course.

Thanks and cheers,
Peter

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Thanks, 79thPA, now does anybody have anything about sword knots before 1810, especially Cavalry?

please visit this homepage scroll to the top and check Viskovatov and then the required period, please let me know your findings.

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According the work of A.V. Viskovatov, supplemented by J. Gingerich's translations of Leonov, Popov, & Kibovsky, Russian cavalry swordknots were ‘standard' across all types of cavalry—cuirassiers, dragoons, etc.—during the reign of Tsar Alexander I. The swordknot consisted of two parts: 1) the strap, which secured the sword to the wearer's wrist, and 2) the tassel and fringe.
Officers (any rank): strap and tassel in silver/white thread, interspersed with thin black & orange threads.
Other Ranks: straps were red ‘Russia' leather (brown with a reddish tinge). Squadron distinctions were based on the tassel colours: 1st Sqdn–White, 2nd Sqdn—Light Blue, 3rd Sqdn—Yellow, 4th Sqdn—Black, 5th Sqdn—Green, 6th Sqdn—Red. NCO distinctions were tassels in an interwoven mix of white, orange, and black threads. Musicians had no swordknot distinctive.

Thank you very much, vW and Greystreak! I have seen, in the meantime, in addition to what Greystreak writes, informations concerning the Officers' swordknot straps being black leather with silver stitches along the borders, the same applying to staff musicians.

Hello. sorry for being the late comer to this discussion. What were the tassel colors for the other squadrons; 7-10 since some units had up to 10 squadrons, such as the Hussars and Uhlans

@Bear1

Viskovatov appears to be silent on the 10 squadron regiments, though for Hussars prior to August 1803 the Hussars were divided into 2 battalions. The first had white shako cords & the second battalion had red.

Volume 8 for the period 1796-1801 Hussars had "Sword knot [temlyak]—of red Russian leather, with a similar tassel (116)"

"(116) The same table and a pattern sword knot preserved by the Commissariat Department of the War Ministry."

Marcel gGyda & Andre Krijitsky "L'Armee Russe sous le tsar Alexandre 1er de 1805 a 1815" says for the hussars …"sans distinction d'escadron.", so based on both I would stick with plain red for the Hussars.

Prince of Essling; thank you for explaining this and the information.

I am starting to build the my Russian Army for the 1812 period and with that, I am building the Alexandria Hussars using AB Figures (The Best). I recently purchased Volume 11 and of course it references Volume 8. I have a few of the Viskovatov books but I need to expand and get more.