"Models of historic buildings ?" Topic

Hello everyone ,

Apart from Hovels and Sarissa who offers models of historic buildings for Waterloo?

Thank you

In what scale? Leven miniatures for 6 mm.

Total Battle Miniatures.

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This guy covers lots of the waterloo and wider Napoleonic wars

Thank you all, 25 mm please.

I have purchased some Quatre Bras buildings from Warfayre. He prints the buildings and so he can do just about any of his buildings in any scale.

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Hello Paskal.
These below are Sarissa, but we sell them on Warlord's web store and some of them as part of our boxes with models… I do not know if they would be useful for you or not:

Epic Scale:
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28mm:
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No love for Airfix ?

With simple conversions the Airfix LHS was brilliant, but there were so many (and so characteristically careless) mistakes. I loved Airfix in the 60s and 70s, but they were so inconsistent. Their Cuirassiers…..the US Halftrack….the German "Armoured Car"….that Tiger….Oh I forgot, the JS III tank

@Old Contemptible:
Please post a working link and quote me "some Quatre Bras buildings"?Thank you

@Lorenzo WG
Thank you for the information.

@Dagwood and deadhead:
Of course I like Airfix, but for the buildings of Waterloo what does it do apart from the LHS at 1/72e.

Well La Haye Saint is a start !

And it's not Airfix's fault that 1/72nd is no longer the same as 25mm ! (Except that it probably is. Scale creep started back in the Airfix days.)

Yes, yes, well for Airfix, La Haye Sainte is a start and also an end !!!

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@ deadhead

Agree re the half track but Airfix's German armoured car was actually based on a real original. REME apprentices "rebuilt" a 234/4 that was missing several parts. They ass-u-med the missing mudguards would be the same as the 232, so that's what it got. They didn't know it had a coaming behind the fighting compartment, so they didn't make one. The Airfix kit is thus an accurate reproduction of a chimera.

The JSIII was a licensed scale down of an Aurora 1/48 original. If you keep the running gear you can make a reasonable KV or JSII from it.

The Tiger is OK. Again it's based on a late example in a German museum. Late ones such as that they worked from had the outer row of road wheels removed. It has other "original" mistakes such as the road wheel arms trailing on both sides when they should lead on the right and trail on the left. The turret is circular on cross section but should not be – but I don't know of a Tiger I that does not repeat this mistakes. The other mistakes – missing mudguards etc – are all found on the source specimen.

The Panther is based on the preserved one at Houffalize which was shot up in the battle of the Bulge, was blocking a bridge, and was tipped into a river to get it out of the way. Fished out of the river and put on display, that's why it's depicted with collapsed suspension. The loader's hatch had gone missing and Airfix didn't know what it looked like, so they left it off. So the Airfix is a reasonable depiction of a Panther that's been brewed up and left upside down in a river.

The Churchill was genius. The suspension bogies and road wheels are spaced the same distance apart on the sprues, so you offer one sprue to the other and glue, turn and glue, and *then* you snip the parts from the sprues.

The cuirassiers are hopeless. They are missing valise, sword scabbard, crossbelt, cartouche, and carbine, the horsehair crest is pretty perfunctory, and the reins are attached to the horse's ears. No wonder they lost.

The Airfix Churchill is a nightmare to build. I built one about 8 years ago and ended up with a jig on a workbench and coating it with superglue. As 4th Cuirassier has pointed out, the wheels and bogies are spaced correctly on the sprues but this trick has never been mentioned on the instructions. Another problem is that the bogies aren't wide enough for the panels. There is a solution which is to glue a piece of plastic card over the inner locating holes and drill out the holes for the bogie pins. Then there are the tracks!

The Matchbox/Revell is much better, more accurate and easily converted to a MkIV. I saw it for sale in a new box in a model shop last week for £25.00 GBP which is outrageous.

What this has to do with Napoleonics, I find difficult to explain.

My thoughts on the Airfix Churchill:
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@ Trockledockle

Well, I guess the relevance is that if Napoleon had had Churchill tanks at Waterloo, the British would have been defeated without the Prussians.

The set of people who've built an Airfix Churchill and the set of people who've painted Airfix Napoleonics probably overlap in a big way.

tanks huh? say what?

Indeed. In Bruce Quarrie's (Airfix) Napoleonic Wargaming there's a caution against "Tiger tanks hiding in La Haye Sainte". So there's a precedent for this discussion! :^\

i use the google earth to look at solnitze castle pratzen hil next stara posta next wil build them in 28 mm

The 3D-Print-Terrain ones are superb. I have several of their various sets, and they will print in whatever scale you want. Just wait until their next Kickstarter, as they always have a buy-in level that gets you several of their older projects, and that's a great way to get all the older Waterloo sets they have done.

In other sillyness, I thought it was a B-52 Nappy had at Waterloo, not a Tigger?

I believe the B-52s are on their Farewell Tour this year. Not sure if Waterloo is on their itinerary.

@All

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