Editor in Chief Bill  | 22 Mar 2022 1:46 p.m. PST |
You were asked – TMP link With Russia's troops on the move, do you think they will stop after Ukraine? 42% said "Russia will not attack elsewhere this time" 27% said "the Baltic states" 9% said "Moldova" |
| Thresher01 | 22 Mar 2022 3:02 p.m. PST |
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| War Scorpio | 22 Mar 2022 3:07 p.m. PST |
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| skipper John | 22 Mar 2022 3:12 p.m. PST |
A Neville Chamberlain here and a Neville Chamberlain there, here a Neville Chamberlain there a Neville Chamberlain. Everywhere a Neville Chamberlain! |
rustymusket  | 22 Mar 2022 3:20 p.m. PST |
I don't believe we have a Chamberlain thing going. I think we have a "how do we deal with the very real issues of nukes and biological/chemical warfare that might really be used" thing going. |
javelin98  | 22 Mar 2022 4:07 p.m. PST |
McDonalds. Or Макдоналдс, as they say. |
Editor in Chief Bill  | 22 Mar 2022 4:33 p.m. PST |
Russia may be unable to attack anyone else… but Moldova might be seen as an easy target. |
| Soldat | 22 Mar 2022 4:39 p.m. PST |
I didnt see the survey but I would say Moldova. |
| Wackmole9 | 22 Mar 2022 4:58 p.m. PST |
Moldova is next on their target list. |
Editor in Chief Bill  | 22 Mar 2022 5:13 p.m. PST |
It was on the Belarussian map! |
| Thresher01 | 22 Mar 2022 5:20 p.m. PST |
Moldova does appear to be quite vulnerable too, and may be next, though I'm sure Putin wants the small Baltic nations back under his control. |
Grattan54  | 22 Mar 2022 6:04 p.m. PST |
I don't think Putin will be in a position to attack anyone else. However, if he was too it would be Moldova. A Russian general mistakenly showed a map that showed attacks on Moldovia. |
Tortorella  | 22 Mar 2022 7:11 p.m. PST |
Too early to tell, but it looks unlikely. Holding Ukraine will use up a lot of whatever capacity they will have left. |
| Black Bull | 23 Mar 2022 2:48 a.m. PST |
Don't know why anyone would want Moldova the villages are nice but the cities are not much better than Mariupol is now |
35thOVI  | 23 Mar 2022 5:00 a.m. PST |
Well crap! I thought his next target would be a nursing home, hospital for paraplegics, another maternity hospital, children's home or something similar on the Sovie… I mean Russian, list of legitimate military targets. 🤬 |
| Ed Mohrmann | 23 Mar 2022 6:21 a.m. PST |
Hey ! Next Summer Games, the IOC needs to update the Decathlon Javelin event ! Bet the Ukrainians could field a strong team ! |
| alexpainter | 23 Mar 2022 6:21 a.m. PST |
To conquer Moldova he should FIRST conquer & stabilize Ukraine, a thing that I don't foresee in the immediate future. You can't start another military "blitz" before consolidating your rearguards. Naturally I'm speaking about rational people…. |
| dapeters | 23 Mar 2022 7:09 a.m. PST |
Attacking the Baltic countries starts WW3, and Putin can't be trust that the Chinese might not join with the west, for reason stated in other list. |
| 0ldYeller | 23 Mar 2022 7:35 a.m. PST |
Putin's next move will be a Stalinist purge on the Russian armed forces and the Russian people. Come on Russian officers and Oligarchs it is Gaddafi time! You had a sweet deal and this psycho has screwed it up for you big time and he going to be looking for scapegoats – that is you. |
Legion 4  | 23 Mar 2022 8:02 a.m. PST |
If & when Putin's War is over. The Russians will be in no condition[or the will in many cases]to attack anyone. They would have to go into some major rebuilding, reassessing, refitting, resupplying, etc. before they can do anything. And they know even with NATO's questionable leadership, crossing a NATO border would not be a wise move as would even using WMDs. |
| ROUWetPatchBehindTheSofa | 23 Mar 2022 8:56 a.m. PST |
The Russian army will be in no condition to get a beer from the fridge for several years after this. And they know even with NATO's questionable leadership The questionable leadership I think is largely down to the politics of managing a multi-national organisation of predominantly democratic countries. Once Article 5 gets invoked I think an awful lot of that extraneous politicking gets flushed and it becomes more a military matter. Is NATO command any good? No idea. Our logistics can't be worse than the Russians though. |
| Griefbringer | 23 Mar 2022 9:55 a.m. PST |
but Moldova might be seen as an easy target. To get to Moldova one would need to more through either Romania or Ukraine. At the moment, it seems that Ukrainians are not too accommodating of such action, and I would expect Romanians to be even less fond of the idea (majority of Moldovians being Romanian-speaking). |
Col Durnford  | 23 Mar 2022 2:13 p.m. PST |
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14Bore  | 23 Mar 2022 2:23 p.m. PST |
Let's see if they get a piece of Ukraine first before counting dominoes From day 1 I thought Putin wanted to be just the Czar or all the Russias |
Legion 4  | 23 Mar 2022 3:32 p.m. PST |
The questionable leadership I think is largely down to the politics of managing a multi-national organisation of predominantly democratic countries. It always comes down to politics. Once Article 5 gets invoked I think an awful lot of that extraneous politicking gets flushed and it becomes more a military matter. I certainly hope so, but as we saw in A'stan sometimes the military is overruled for "optics", etc. Putin & Xi saw this too. Is NATO command any good? No idea. Same here … again we can hope. I know the US military IMO has wasted far too much time on looking for white supremacists, wokeness, CRT, 1619, equity, diversity, etc. instead of hardcore war fighting skills. The individual does not have the military adapt to them … but the other way around. Been that way for a long tine AFAIK. Our logistics can't be worse than the Russians though. That I think is a good assessment based on what we saw/see in the Ukraine. The Russian army's next target will be Putin. That would fix a lot of things, IMO. To get to Moldova one would need to more through either Romania or Ukraine. At the moment, it seems that Ukrainians are not too accommodating of such action, and I would expect Romanians to be even less fond of the idea (majority of Moldovians being Romanian-speaking). Again after this is over based on everything occurring daily. The Russian military will not be ready to go anywhere but back to Russian, save for many of the dead/MIAs. |
Herkybird  | 23 Mar 2022 4:56 p.m. PST |
I wonder if Ukraine has been a salutory lesson for Mr Putin, and he will 'Declare Victory' and withdraw sometime down the line…?! |
| Thresher01 | 23 Mar 2022 7:53 p.m. PST |
"Attacking the Baltic countries starts WW3…". Many say that, but will it really happen under threat of nuclear retaliation? Will NATO come to the aid of the smaller Baltic States under that kind of threat, especially if they are seized quickly and held? That will be the true test of the alliance. |
| Blaubaer | 24 Mar 2022 4:11 a.m. PST |
What about the russian navy? Is the bulk of them still at their war stations at sea? For 6 weeks now? |
Editor in Chief Bill  | 24 Mar 2022 4:15 a.m. PST |
The Black Sea fleet is said to be maneuvering off Odesa, including amphib assault ships. |
| alexpainter | 24 Mar 2022 6:33 a.m. PST |
TMP link Seems one of these didn't end well…. |
Legion 4  | 24 Mar 2022 7:45 a.m. PST |
Many say that, but will it really happen under threat of nuclear retaliation? Many believe Putin won't use nukes literally as the fallout will go everywhere. So we need to take this seriously. But realize it may be saber rattling for local consumption. Also note, many Russian leaders who fail are "relived" … I'd think not all of Putin's GENs think using Nukes, even Tac Nukes are a good idea.
Will NATO come to the aid of the smaller Baltic States under that kind of threat, especially if they are seized quickly and held? Those are NATO and has other NATO troops there as well. But again, IMO … Putin's military have preformed marginally at best, and taking high losses. They could not invade anywhere, anytime soon, after the Ukraine debacle … And yes it has been reported the Russian Navy has lost one or two of their ships. +1 for the Ukraine ! Can those even be replaced ? Not anytime soon IMO … |
| Alexander Pavlovich Kutepov | 24 Mar 2022 1:12 p.m. PST |
Most likely Russia will keep to Ukraine. China on the other hand will react violently over Taiwan if it is recognized and will sink the nearest American aircraft carrier group in retaliation for when Bill Clinton sent an aircraft carrier up and down the Chinese coast back in the 90s. That will start WW3 if the United States does not collapse from sanctioning China. CHINA! Which they will do. Idiots. In summary the main threat is China not Russia. |
| Thresher01 | 24 Mar 2022 2:40 p.m. PST |
I imagine China's military will perform even worse on the battlefield and in the air than the Russian one has. |
Legion 4  | 24 Mar 2022 4:29 p.m. PST |
Most likely Russia will keep to Ukraine. As I said after their poor performance and losses in blood & treasure … they will probably go no where. But there may be a change in leadership at the top. I imagine China's military will perform even worse on the battlefield and in the air than the Russian one has. Hopefully true … but again they have the numbers … But as we see so did the Russians. It seems fighting modern combined arm warfare appears to be harder than some thought. The "vaunted" Russian Military tactics comes down to depopulation & rubbling … |