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Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2022 5:02 a.m. PST

After the preliminaries described here:

TMP link
we fought our battle.

The Battle.

A game using new rules isn't a guarantee of fun – this game was an absolute blast!
Our rules worked a treat to produce a fairly trouble free, slick yet challenging contest. Indeed, so engrossed was I, I failed to take many photos.

As indicated, the Prussians, though outnumbered, were still formidable. Key to their strength was their ability to both change formation & move- an ability denied to the French.


Several units of Prussian grenadiers meant resistance was assured.


The most important feature of TRICORNE is that written orders were necessary….& to change them, an ADC needed to be sent from the static Commanding general to each brigade commander. Even at the ability to move at 18" a turn, this took time. And a rule that required a D6 to be thrown on arrival to see if the courier had arrived or been killed (on a '6') & failed to deliver orders saw 4 ADCs die. You had to think ahead in this game!




Needless to say, in a game involving movement, cavalry were vital. They could, & did, crush unsupported infantry but could also be shot to pieces by formed & supported infantry.


The French cavalry were ruthless & aggressive.


After much hard fighting, the Prussian perimeter was cracked. The surviving Prussians raced for safety.



It was Turn 9 – the final turn before sunset saved the Prussians but too late! the French had reached their objective

The Prussian army had reached breakpoint & disintegrated.

A rare but satisfying French victory (BTW Frederick the Great never came, but each turn I rolled a dice to pretend he might have next turn….cruel but in the end a failed tactic).

John Leahy Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2022 5:47 a.m. PST

Wow! Great looking game! The French fought more like they did under the Sun King than as they actually did during the SYW. I recently got a copy of Duffy's book on the Army of Maria Theresa. I already owned the one on Frederick. Just recently got my resin printers back on line. Need to seriously start printing more Cavalry. I also bought a load more of SYW 1/72 figs from a gent here at TMP including a bunch of wagons. I want to get started on this soon!



epturner Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2022 8:36 a.m. PST

That was wonderful to see and read.

Thanks for sharing that.


Personal logo Yellow Admiral Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2022 9:08 a.m. PST

FWIW a set of rules called Tricorne was published in 1977, and the game is still played every year at the SYW con in South Bend, IN, USA.

On the bright side, if you can get ahold of a copy, the rules are probably perfectly geared to the scale you're using. grin

Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2022 11:04 a.m. PST

Beautiful game, well done!

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2022 12:22 p.m. PST

They stole my TITLE!!!!

Oh well, I hope Mr Bunger (not to mention Mr Conliffe who wrote SHAKO)won't mind me calling my adaptation of Shako "TRICORNE".
My version won't be published so I don't expect legal issues.

As I said above, our modified rules worked a treat. They *are* essentially SHAKO but with a few changes. It looks like they'll be our SYW rule set from now on.

Personal logo Yellow Admiral Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2022 7:17 p.m. PST

All the good names were taken by 1990. Since then we've had to resort to creative use of conjunctions, gerunds, and foreign languages.

Your rules are essentially Shako now, but in a few years they'll be nearly unrecognizable. It's just the way wargame rules writing works one small new rule at a time.

I think an adaptation of Shako is a great idea. I wish I were there to help playtest it. grin

- Ix

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2022 10:22 p.m. PST

Are we related? You seem to know me so well!

I will try to resist the urge to tamper. That's what happened to our last SYW rule set it grew so bloated, trying to cover every contingency that the game we just played would have taken an extra 2 hours.

"I wish I were there to help playtest it."
You seem such a kindred spirit *I* wish you were here to play some wargames.

I'm assuming by your name you're a Patrick O'Brian fan? If so, there's a seat at the head of the table.

Personal logo Dal Gavan Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2022 11:49 p.m. PST

YA and Donald, two copies I found with a quick search:




Personal logo Narratio Supporting Member of TMP09 Jan 2022 6:52 p.m. PST

I'm enjoying your pics. Basic paint finish, no extraneous detail, simple and clean. Love it!

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