"Warlord Games Epic Battles scale" Topic

Warlord Games has announced a new line of miniatures that are "Epic".

What scale are they? 15mm? 10mm?

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There is an active thread under 19th century product reviews, although this board makes more sense to me. Sorry, but I don't know how to post a link from my phone.

This one?

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That'd be it.

13.5 mm to eye, so small 15's. They claim they are 15's in some notices, a new scale slightly smaller in others.

Since they want you using THEIR figures, I suspect it's 'not quite' 15mm

For some reason Warlord seem to be a little awkward regarding the scale.
First they don't mention it, then hide it away so it's hard to spot, then Contradict themselves claiming they are 13.5 mm tall 15mm figures (?)

They also use weaselly terms like 'epic' or '15mm-ish' even 'towards the smaller end of 15mm'. What? It's 15mm or it isn't!!

You know full well it's another warlord random size they've come up with hoping to grab the market but just won't admit it.

I am surprised that GW has not gone after them for using the word 'epic'.

"You know full well it's another warlord random size they've come up with hoping to grab the market but just won't admit it."

Yep. They want to sell toys. Great if the historical gamer just getting into the hobby or the period. Useless to anyone who already has "large scale " 15/18mm ACW collections.

They do this with their stuff except 28mm.

Just seen comparison pictures with the "12mm" Kallistra figures. Very close, although the horses are significantly bigger than the Kallistra.

Yes, shame on Warlord for trying to make money by differentiating their product.

Bede19002

It' not that.

It's finding someone with a compatible army to fight that causes problems.

if I had an army and my buddy bought that set we'd have to use just that set due to basing and size issues. My painstakenly painted and based army would have to stay on the shelf it would look and be just too different- and that's the rub.

The more scales there are the less likely you are to find an opponent -and that's not a good thing for the hobby.

Does that mean you guys only buy an army for one side?

I always buy both sides.

Currently I play a lot of solo games too.

I can barely afford ONE side these days. 15mm's have become too expensive.

Whilst I have a 28mm Skirmish collection for the ACW, I have been considering what to do about larger scale games for ages. I discounted 6mm as it just doesn't appeal and have been trying to decide between 10mm and 15mm. Seeing the new Warlord offering has really stimulated my interest on two counts. The first is the look of the figures. The closely packed ranks really do look the part rather than the far more usual spaced out models one usually sees and the sheer presence of such large units will simply look awesome on the tabletop. The second major advantage is the cost of getting an army using this range. My greatest concern is finding out more about the rules themselves to try and ascertain whether they will provide a game I will enjoy playing, otherwise the first two advantages count for little. I am not at all concerned about the scale issue as there are already many companies out there making ‘15mm' models that are quite a different scale to other companies ‘15mm'. If I already had a substantial collection of 15mm ACW forces then I doubt I would be very interested in Warlord's offering and would happily carry on with my existing collection.

Are these not the "Gordon and Hauge" range of figures from some years back?

Russ Dunaway

Well I'm in for starter bundle on pre order :)

I had been planning a return to ACW in 15mm next year anyway, going back to the old Original F&F rules I played 20 odd years ago and enjoyed so much. I would like to know if the strips can be cut in half so that I could use 10 figure bases for the game, I can envisage brigades of 10 to 14 bases, should be impressive 100 to 140 figures! I have painted most ACW ranges over the past 40 years, I know what to expect in terms of Warlords plastic at 3p per figure, but I'm fine with that for the mass effect.

Couple of notes from reading around: the sprues are standard for both sides but in grey and blue (like the good old Airfix figures of my youth), with a mix of hats and kepis so we are really looking at Western theatre Yanks here.

Zouves as featured on the Warlord site are NOT included in the bundle but are a planned future release along with cavalry etc as I understand it?

Jim Duncan (hope you are keeping well?) Found a pic that might interest you, comparison between the 15's and the Kallistras you mentioned.

Cheers,
Lee.

Jim Duncan (hope you are keeping well?) Found a pic that might interest you, comparison between the 15's and the Kallistras you mentioned.

Thanks Grambo

Am under doctors orders again but not too bad really.

Just waiting to see what the disposable budget for 2021 will be before deciding what level to pitch in at.

Would also hope to get some freebie sprues but coronavirus restrictions may close WH Smiths.

Jim

I will probably get sent a copy of the magazine with the sprue as I have an advert is that issue (and usually get sent the magazine anyway).

Drop me your address through the blackhat site and I'll send you the sprue if I get it.

No use to me as my ACW is in 20mm.

Mike

Grambo, you lucky guy…..

"Well I'm in for starter bundle on pre order :)
I had been planning a return to ACW in 15mm next year anyway, going back to the old Original F&F rules I played 20 odd years ago and enjoyed so much."

Oh, and on cutting down to 10 figure stands – the stuff is plastic! ;)

Would also hope to get some freebie sprues but coronavirus restrictions may close WH Smiths.

Just checked the Edinburgh Cameron Toll WH Smith. Only the December issue on the shelves.

I will probably get sent a copy of the magazine with the sprue as I have an advert is that issue (and usually get sent the magazine anyway).

Fantastic Mike, what a guy.

FlyXwire – I won't be seeing the bundle until end of February, the planned release date :(

Cutting the strips in half should be easy, but I just want to check I can make a clean cut as the strips are shoulder to shoulder ( as they should be). Should be OK though.

I'll grab a copy of the magazine when it comes out on 1st January, I expect there will be a high demand from it. Was going to order a copy from warlord yesterday but £5.00 GBP for postage was too steep so I'll ask the family to look out for one in January. We are in Tier 4 (I'm in kent, the Great Lorry Park of England!) but WH Smiths is still open.

Lee.

Lee, it'll be fun to see what you and others custom-craft with these sprues.

It's been years, but I think I recall marveling over your blog and the AWI units you displayed on it (maybe they were 10s? – can't remember for sure, and I might be mistaken).

For sure though, we'll be looking forward to you working some magic with these new Epic ACWs too!

Have a great holiday season as best you kind there in the Great Lorry Parkland of Kent, but if you venture out, hopefully your mask will help with the fumes too. ;)

(I'll be hunkering down here in the US-Midwest all the same) – Dave

Speaking of sprues (courtesy of the Michigan Toy Soldier Company).

Ready for customizing as you see fit! :)

FlyXwire (Dave),

Thanks for your comments re my blog, yes I did AWI in both 15mm & 6mm in the past, infact painted most periods over the years and keep selling everything off! Currently into 18mm Napoleonics (AB's) but the Warlord sprues will see a return to an old favourite :)
Cheers,
Lee.

Just saw your reply here Lee, and Cheers to you too!

For this "old" thread, how 'bouts some new media – and to keep the ole hobby marching along -

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Lee,
Thanks for the Kallistra comparison shots – the infantry look like they are identical in scale. The cavalry pics I've seen make the Kallistra look quite a bit smaller, mostly it is the horse that is small.

I am thinking that small 15s, Kallistra, etc, may be used to give bulk and variety to my starter set, if I decide to expand it.