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Tango0130 Oct 2019 9:40 p.m. PST

"It is generally agreed that the regime installed by Napoleon was authoritarian. But simply calling it a dictatorship seems excessive. The presence of opposing powers, the strength of the principles limiting the action of the executive and the circumstances themselves all restricted the leader's room for action. There are three elements that define a dictatorship:

– A dictatorship is installed and kept in power by force, particularly by military force

– A dictatorship is an arbitrary regime, that is, it removes all the elements that safeguard the freedom of citizens

– A dictatorship is not seen as a legitimate political structure by the majority of its citizens…"
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La Belle Ruffian31 Oct 2019 3:07 a.m. PST

Tango, as you currently seem to be posting a lot of media articles about Napoleon, perhaps you could post them in the Napoleonic Media board which I've noticed? I enjoy discussing Napoleonic history as much as most here I'm sure, but some of the recent posts don't seem to be particularly helpful in discussing wargaming.

von Winterfeldt31 Oct 2019 6:29 a.m. PST

Tango can you please explain what you mean under military dictatorship also I fail to see the connection with

For discussion of anything related to Napoleonics miniature wargaming.

Is there a general history board on TMP ?

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP31 Oct 2019 6:44 a.m. PST

Not touching this one.

Garth in the Park31 Oct 2019 8:33 a.m. PST

I read that article many years ago, when Brechtel was flogging it. I thought that it needed to start most sentences with the words, "In my opinion…"

Who decided what the definitions of a dictatorship are?

For example, do we really think that Hitler, who apparently was quite popular for much of his time in power, was "not seen as legitimate" by all those cheering crowds?

And most dictatorships do indeed "safeguard the freedom of their citizens"… except those who are disobedient or suspected of disloyalty, of course. You're always free to agree with the regime and praise it. Just don't criticize it. Which is exactly how Napoleon behaved, as did all autocrats at the time. (I can't find the reference now, but somebody on TMP pointed out – on one of the many, many occasions when this came up in the past – that there isn't a single example of Napoleon's legislature ever voting "No" against any measure he put before them.)

And as for this "majority of its citizens" thing… If memory serves, Napoleon's 1804 plebiscite got something like 99.9% approval, with only 3.5 million voters showing up, about 10% of the population. I think Saddam Hussein had a better voter turnout and won by a smaller margin. Either Napoleon really was the most uber-popular godlike wunderkind ever to stand for election, or that vote was… well, like the elections of most dictators.

So, I call BS on the creation of criteria designed to support an opinion that the author already held.

Say, does anybody know what that loud thudding noise is, coming from the Dawghouse? It sounds like somebody shouting MMMPH!! NMMPH!!

Stoppage31 Oct 2019 10:30 a.m. PST

Wow! Six of them in there – must be getting crowded.

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If anyone is in the vicinity of Battersea Dog's Home then I recommend a visit to the US Embassy at the other end of Nine Elms. Fantastic set of buildings with a Waitrose and adjoining (free) underground carpark.

Tango0131 Oct 2019 11:35 a.m. PST

Dear Ruffian…. our Editor don't allow articles on Media… only books or movies…


His rules….

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La Belle Ruffian31 Oct 2019 1:50 p.m. PST

I'm somewhat confused Tango – I can see a number of articles on the Media page, including several posted by you. 'other wargaming-related media ' Given it's the 21st century I'm pretty sure online articles are classed as media so maybe the Editor is ahead of you?

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