"2nd Red Lancers at Saint Dizier (Oniria's 28s)" Topic

Hi all,
Finally managed to grab some time to finish my vignette with the three sets I released some time back.
Thanks for watching and I hope you like it.
Saludetes

The "Red Lancers" are one of very few units that look better in campaign than parade dress I always think.

Greta modelling and painting….not to mention the base!

I would describe it as – art, stunning.

Until I saw the painter's hand as a point of reference for scale, I thought that these were 54mm figures. Outstanding job!

Me too! I had to go back and check the post title. These are beautiful figures, beautifully painted.

Just compelling!
You should be very pleased with the result.

But a friend of mine who has painting talent told me that for him with talent came perfectionism and even at a high level of results he could only see detects.
I very much hope you can see results and not flaws like my friend. The fact that you have posted for all of us to enjoy this outstanding work suggests you are not like him!
Thank you again for posting.
LPWC

Cheers guys. Thanks for comments.
Lets party…@ I just try to paint the minis the best way I can. Not really a perfectionism fan, not in my painting nor in others.The Ramones are my favourite rock band and by all means they are not perfectionists ;)

I'm not a fan of Napoleonic gaming…I am however a fan of great painted miniatures and those are brilliant! Bravo sir bravo.

Glad to hear that!
True about the Ramones.

Truly magnificent, and truly depressing to an old man who gave up paint 54's for display. I must now give up on 28's, for mine are mere 1-year-old child "crayoning."

Perhaps I can escape to 3mm armies!

By the what, what is the origin – the maker – of the men and horses?

GdeP

Oniria Miniatures, Spanish Company.

Magnificent models, but not cheap (understandably for the quality) and may get much worse if a certain political event transpires!

link

Sadly, these superb figures are too big to fit in with other 28mm models. I have made dioramas with them but they do not fit on my battlefields. A real shame.

I did wonder. When they first appeared they were described as larger than 28mm (was it even 35mm?) but latterly all are labelled as 28mm.

There was an old posting showing them actually working well with Perry figures though. See the link, bottom picture of several;

TMP link

On the topic of size (?scale creep?) I have recently dug into my stored 30mm figures, and find that the old Stadden British 30's stand as high as current Victrix 28mm British. But the Victrix are bulked out like Hobbits, and the Staddens look very human, almost undernourished!

GdeP

Deadhead: How did you ever get into a link on TMP from 2013????

GdeP

Nice figures, but poses?
I don't think any horseman let alone a commanding officer would be drawing sabres at the gallop!
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Cheers guys, Thanks for the comments.
The eternal scale creep and proportion discussion. Very interesting…
I think the mayor difference between Oniria figures and the average 28mm wargame figure in not that they are taller (people come in different sizes). The mayor difference is the body proportions. If you compare an Oniria figure with a 28mm wargame figure, you'll see that the heads are the same size (in a lot of cases the Oniria figure will have even a smaller head), arms are practically the same length, but the torsos and legs are the ones who are making the difference. I've put some clarifying comparison pictures below.
If we were to speak in terms of scale, Oniria figures would be 1/48, which is approximately 36/37mm form sole to head's crown. An average 28 wargame figure would be 1/56, which is not really the case, because the figures' proportions are bigger.
With all this I'm not saying that ones are better than others. They are simply two different ways of sculpting figures.
Can you mix Oniria figures with wargame 28mm figures in a wargame formation? I honestly don't think so. They would look strange. Not because they are taller, but because they are different. I do think you can mix them in a vignette if you carefully choose the 28mm wargaming figures to mix with (see this link and pictures bellow)

TMP link

Saludetes

It is extraordinary that, until figures are placed side by side, our eyes do not notice misproportions.

Front Rank are marvellous castings but with Hobbit proportions. Viewed from eye level one cannot miss that, gazing don on a wargames table I am sure easily ignored and they are getting better.

There figures are far more realistic than their competitors shown above. Slender human (and equine) proportions. Many thanks for this latest post. I must finally put in an order as I lack inspiration at present….despite a lead mountain!

For me, the difference in width and length of a figure's limbs and head are not a big deal – they just reflect the range of variety in the real human form. But when shako's etc vary in size (e.g. Front Rank shakos are massive compared to Perry/Victrix/Calpe) then that's more of an issue and I prefer not to mix them.

I think it's a pity that all Perry horses are the same size – I believe there was an opportunity to keep the light cavalry horses small (say, about the size of the old Foundry horses) and keep the larger modern sculpts for heavy cavalry. Look at pictures of a Grand National winner being flanked by two police horses and you can see the huge difference in size (which would also have been very apparent in Napoleonic cavalry). A squadron of Cuirassiers/Life Guards etc should LOOK bigger than a squadron of light dragoons/lancers etc.

p.s. meant to say how awesome Oniria's painting is! Rembrandt compared to the cave daubings of the rest of us!

When 28s look like 54s then you know you are looking at some damned fine work. Bravo

Amazing work pure artwork !!!

Splendid figures. My cavalry regiments are 24 figures strong, so the cost is out of my reach. Shame, as these are terrific.

I love Oniria's miniatures,They are in a class by themselves.He has some new great looking sets coming out soon.Check out the greens on his FB page.
Mark

Have you ever seen figures so good that you feel they are slightly intimidating?

That is how I have felt since this range first appeared.

This is totally insane, but let me say how I feel. I can spend ages on 28mm figures, small numbers, as good as I can do. Good background. Digital camera with processing of any problems. Photoshop is amazing my three sons tell me (I wish I understood it).

When I post, people tell me how gifted I am…No, I pick the best of 20-30 photos.

This will break the makers' heart. My problem is I cannot remotely do justice to, let alone improve, the painted figures shown here. So I have never yet, how ever much I wanted to….

Folks at Oniria. You cannot win. You are dealing with a (he was once the Burmese Premiere) a Nae Winn Scenario. In some ways you figures are almost too good for us. The range is incredible.

Do me some Garde Grenadiers a Cheval in the lapelled coat. At rest. En Parade. I will buy your entire stock. No one..no one does them, in the most iconic unit of the whole era.

Beautiful work!