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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP06 Oct 2018 4:25 p.m. PST

"Despite growing threats from Russia and China, American experiences in Afghanistan and Iraq have created weariness in the American public and have focused the country on counterterrorism and counterinsurgency instead of major power warfare.

To deter, and if necessary defeat, Russian and Chinese aggression, the U.S. Department of Defense (DOD) would likely need a strategy to overcome these obstacles…."
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Personal logo 28mm Fanatik Supporting Member of TMP06 Oct 2018 5:50 p.m. PST

Uh, the US has been drawing down its forces in the ME and reorienting its priorities towards a potential near peer conflict with China or Russia for at least the past 5 years since the previous administration.

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP06 Oct 2018 7:46 p.m. PST

I doubt it, especially in far away venues.

The troops are great, but a lot of our equipment and vehicles are very old, and many are worn out. Spare parts are hard to come by in many cases, and I suspect our supply of bombs and cruise missiles isn't what it should be.

The cost of getting involved in many minor, far-off adventures, with high-tech weaponry.

I imagine we need a full decade or so to refit, and rebuild.

Of course, that doesn't mean we couldn't fight with either of the two, and perhaps draw to a stalemate with the Chinese. Can probably beat the Russians, since they're in dire economic straits too, though it depends upon the region/country we're fighting in, and whether we get any real help, or not.

Winning in far off lands against dictators/presidents for life (essentially), is pretty hard for us to do, especially with so many trying to undermine that on the homefront, since the 1960s.

They know this, like the Vietnamese/Chinese/North Koreans did, and can play the long game. In that, we lose, since our citizens suffer from attention deficit disorder, when it comes to war.

Cacique Caribe06 Oct 2018 11:03 p.m. PST

Can or Can't are terms that are no longer determined by our true military capabilities.

For example, if a war lasts more than one election cycle, we can't really ever win it any longer.

Anyway, our US news/entertainment* media would probably support a war against Capitalist Russia, specially if they think that the event could be stretched and spun in a way that hurts some key politicians here, but they will definitely side with China if we ever had a war against that Communist country.

And if US news and (specially) entertainment media is against it, then it won't be long before the putty that is in many people's head begins taking on whatever shape they want. So the longer the conflict, once again, the less likely the chances of a victory.

Also, the definition of victory over anything doesn't mean anything any more. The most ridiculous accomplishments are proclaimed as victories in our society, and many profound successes are reduced to look like barely a blip in the narratives that eventually get to be called our "history".

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* Too many people see entertainment media as their primary news source anyway. :)

USAFpilot07 Oct 2018 10:48 a.m. PST

Is any nation every truly ready for war? Is it even possible for any superpower to be ready for war against another superpower? We get as ready as we possibly can, but no matter how ready we become no nation is ever truly prepared for war.

USAFpilot07 Oct 2018 10:50 a.m. PST

And the reason we get ready is not to start a war, but to deter against ever going to war.

EnemyAce07 Oct 2018 2:24 p.m. PST

Real question is either of them ready for a war against the US?

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP07 Oct 2018 3:16 p.m. PST



TGerritsen Supporting Member of TMP07 Oct 2018 5:05 p.m. PST

I'm honestly more worried about a civil war than any external conflict, the way things are going. The first one was the bloodiest war in American history, but it was a gentleman's disagreement compared to the Balkan style mess it will be if we have another one.

Pythagoras07 Oct 2018 5:33 p.m. PST

There will be no large scale war between the U.S. and Russia/China. The muscle-flexing in the media is just to save face. The world would have to change drastically for this war to happen. Russia is all about talking big and making moves when everyone's back is turned. A far more effective strategy than an all-out-war. And China is willing to wait for their opportunity also.

……….. and this is just one VERY humble person's opinion. :)

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP07 Oct 2018 8:15 p.m. PST

China's making lots of moves now, and most go unchallenged, while others are happening under the radar, I suspect.

Uparmored07 Oct 2018 10:57 p.m. PST

Well if the US runs out of cruise missiles and ordnance it can always go geurilla on the opposition. They've learnt everything there is to know about insurgencies and if it's one thing the American military can do it's learn and adapt.

A Balkans style civil war in the US would be really interesting. States fighting it out for independence from the Union, Federal forces, foreign interests helping various factions: George Soros funding Antifa geurillas and death squads.going around trying to round up non-university educated white people for "re-education"…


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