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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian14 Sep 2018 6:15 p.m. PST

It was proposed – TMP link

For the privilege of a Free Basic membership and the rights it gives, Basic Members will have to list their country of residence.

44% voted for approval
42% voted against approval

So this goes on the 'to do' list.

Winston Smith14 Sep 2018 7:27 p.m. PST

What's to stop anyone from lying about it?
I'm changing mine right now to Ireland.

joeltks Supporting Member of TMP14 Sep 2018 7:37 p.m. PST

I'm from The Republic of Trinidad and Tobago.

lloydthegamer Supporting Member of TMP14 Sep 2018 7:53 p.m. PST

How about Westeros?

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian14 Sep 2018 7:53 p.m. PST

I'm changing mine right now to Ireland.

You'll have to turn down the gaming invitations!

PzGeneral14 Sep 2018 8:03 p.m. PST

I again ask if this will make TMP run afoul of the GDPR?

DisasterWargamer Supporting Member of TMP14 Sep 2018 8:24 p.m. PST

Might skew the world census

Zephyr114 Sep 2018 8:36 p.m. PST

Is "Here" a country…?

Cacique Caribe14 Sep 2018 8:40 p.m. PST

About time. I just love it when someone takes a cheap shot at my national identity while cowardly hiding behind anonymity.

Dan

John the OFM14 Sep 2018 10:00 p.m. PST

As I said before, this is a solution in desperate search for a problem.

Winston Smith14 Sep 2018 10:12 p.m. PST

Fixed. I'm not kowtowing to fake "patriotism".

My opinion is just as valid as if I'm from the USA or the Marshall Islands.
I've never been there. I hear it's nice.

I encourage everyone to lie.

And if anyone doesn't like it, report me to Homeland Security.

Cacique Caribe15 Sep 2018 3:55 a.m. PST

"I'm not kowtowing to fake ‘patriotism'"

You lost me. Now I have no idea what the hell you're talking about. But, then again, I don't need to know, nor would it be the first time that disconnect has happened.

Anyway, I assume that you got your vote in. And now it's done.

Dan

Winston Smith15 Sep 2018 5:26 a.m. PST

"And now it's done."
Not really. More than one "policy" issue has been voted on more than once until we got "the right snswer".
Someone will bring this up again. Not me. The OFM and I are now residents of "other", which will change often. I urge others to do the same so fake "analysis" will be foiled.

MajorB15 Sep 2018 5:46 a.m. PST

I again ask if this will make TMP run afoul of the GDPR?

No, because "country of residence" is not personal data. If it was a full address then that would be personal data.

cosmicbank15 Sep 2018 6:22 a.m. PST

So now Bill cares what members want?

Doug MSC Supporting Member of TMP15 Sep 2018 6:28 a.m. PST

I think it would be interesting to see all the various countries that our gaming people are from. I think it would be cool.

Dynaman878915 Sep 2018 6:33 a.m. PST

I'm now from Afghanistan.

Winston Smith15 Sep 2018 7:02 a.m. PST

By Jove, yes you are!

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP15 Sep 2018 9:57 a.m. PST

Interesting: before it became a 'requirement' I assume people either filled it in – with the correct information or simply left it blank.

As a requirement it might make people think twice about listing the correct information since the 'why' of it is not defined.

Cacique Caribe15 Sep 2018 1:55 p.m. PST

Winston/OFM

LOL. And you sometimes call ME the paranoid one! Hilarious.

Dan
PS. Don't worry, the draft police wouldn't be looking for you this late in the game. :)

Walking Sailor15 Sep 2018 8:28 p.m. PST

I live in "Mosby's Confederacy". It was nevah surrendered. Which STATE shall I swear my allegiance to?

Legion 416 Sep 2018 7:55 a.m. PST

Well I'm always interested where people come from. If for no other reason you may be able to understand a bit more about what they post, why, etc. I don't see why it would be a big secret. Unless where they live the gov't may have a problem with the net in general.

Cacique Caribe16 Sep 2018 8:30 a.m. PST

Legion 4

"If for no other reason you may be able to understand a bit more about what they post, why, etc"

Wow, spot on!

Dan

Winston Smith16 Sep 2018 9:28 a.m. PST

What if a "stateless person" tries to post?
What will happen?
What will happen to all of his previous posts? Will they vanish?
What is to force me to state my residence (tellingly not my citizenship…) accurately?
Will I be punished if my choice is … innacurate? Or a deliberate lie?

This is dumb from the get-go. It's none of your damn business. You want it solely for the smug satisfaction of "knowing where I come from"? What a petty reason.

You can understand what I say from what I post.

Winston Smith16 Sep 2018 9:34 a.m. PST

What's your real motivation Dan? Do you want to assemble a dossier on those who displease you? Do you want all the information you can get together for when The Day comes?

Cacique Caribe16 Sep 2018 9:53 a.m. PST

Winston/John: "What's your real motivation Dan? Do you want to assemble a dossier on those who displease you? Do you want all the information you can get together for when The Day comes?"

Wow, I don't know what the problem is with you and this topic, nor do I really care (I really don't), but you seem a bit more wound up than usual.

So I'm not going to add to your sense of paranoia and I'll just let you do and say your thing to those who might care.

All the best.

Dan
PS. Though I do see you have no problem bringing up what others say and even where they post from. Anyway, just an observation for the sake of a little rational perspective, before I move on to other places and things today.

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP16 Sep 2018 10:19 a.m. PST

Great! Now do when do we get the proposal to decide whose list of countries we follow?

Also, have you changed Swaziland to Eswatini yet?

Earl of the North16 Sep 2018 10:21 a.m. PST

I'm not sure its necessary, but I don't see the harm either….I've only looked personally so I don't waste time telling someone all about UK stockists when they live elsewhere. I also already had my correct location up since I joined TMP I believe.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian16 Sep 2018 11:23 a.m. PST

John, you're not even a Basic Member, so not sure why you're getting so upset about this.

Personal logo The Virtual Armchair General Sponsoring Member of TMP16 Sep 2018 11:37 a.m. PST

Actually, at the risk of sounding naive to the OFM (whose presence here I greatly enjoy), I don't know why indicating one's country of residence had to become mandatory, but I fail to see the harm in it, and the information can be of some small help to me as a retailer.

Quoting postage costs is decidedly location dependent, and not all E-mail addresses are clear on the origin of an order or question. If the customer hangs out at TMP, at least I can independently confirm if he's domestic or overseas.

And one of the things I like about TMP is its cosmopolitan nature, and it's nice to know just how much more so if I want to look anyone up.

John, Bless You, unless you can tell me something very specific to alter my thinking, it does seem this is an unusually sore point for you, Sir.

TVAG

Bunkermeister Supporting Member of TMP16 Sep 2018 5:27 p.m. PST

I am proud to be an American and USA is my home.

With a few recent events in Communist China now tracking people and their social score it might be bad to be on TMP.

With people in EU countries being threatened with prosecution for posting MEMEs and perhaps in the UK too, I can understand were others might want to avoid posting where they are from.

I do like to know where people are from, if English is their second language, or they live in a nation very different from my own it might explain some of their remarks and make communication better.

It TMP even available in Communist China? North Korea? Vietnam? Cuba? Zimbabwe? Venezuela?

Mike Bunkermeister Creek
Bunker Talk blog
USA

Winston Smith16 Sep 2018 7:57 p.m. PST

I too am proud to be an American. (Even if I can't stand that sappy song. grin)
But why are so many fine with compelling us to say where we are from? It's no hardship to be puzzled about where someone is from. Life goes on, and you will live just as long. Beer will taste just as good, as will bacon and strawberries. The laughter of children will sound just as sweet.

If someone is WILLING to click on a drop down to show their place of residence, good on them. And if they can't be bothered, why force them?
Is it really any of your business?

Compulsion is un-American.
If the mandatory part of this is removed, and it goes back to being purely voluntary, I will go right back and proudly click on American. But don't force me.

Personal logo David Manley Supporting Member of TMP16 Sep 2018 9:14 p.m. PST

Why only basic members? If it's going to be done, is harmless and has benefits it would seem to be something that everyone should do.

Cacique Caribe17 Sep 2018 4:36 a.m. PST

This really reminds me of back when I was a kid and worked as a bank teller to pay for school. Everyone else except me knew about this old man who threw fits – and I mean fits – every time someone said "Good Morning" to him.

I made the mistake of saying it to him, and he let me have it. He went on and on about how I had no right to tell him what sort of morning to have. And that if I was simply stating that the morning had been a good one, that I had no earthly idea how the morning had been for him and I should therefore keep my opinions to myself.

I then asked him if it was okay to just say "Hello". He said yes, but that we should do that for EVERY customer as well. LOL.

Later on our manager told us to just avoid saying "Good Morning" to any customers … whenever HE was around.

Wow, what a guy!

Dan
PS. My plan was to completely stay away from this thread, but I now see that there's a repeal request of some sort in the poll suggestions:
TMP link
I missed the last vote on this topic (I would have voted for) but, IF there is another one 7 months from now to overturn this one, I will be voting on that one for sure, for this new rule to stand as t is now. I wouldn't miss it for the world. :)

Legion 417 Sep 2018 7:18 a.m. PST

I'm not sure its necessary, but I don't see the harm either….I've only looked personally so I don't waste time telling someone all about UK stockists when they live elsewhere.
Very true … Plus some "sayings", vernacular, etc. is a bit different from nation to nation or, e.g. in the USA from state to state in some cases. E.g. in the US South to say, "God bless his heart." Generally means he's an idiot basically ! LOL ! evil grin

But no I don't think it should be mandatory …

Do you want to assemble a dossier on those who displease you? Do you want all the information you can get together for when The Day comes?
That's Classified … AFAIK huh?

"Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean someone is not out to get you." wink

is harmless and has benefits it would seem to be something that everyone should do.
I too believe that …

I am proud to be an American and USA is my home.
As am I, and I use my real name in my profile. I really have nothing to hide. Of course one can, as some do, use a screen name or false name and location in their profile. That should be and appears to be fine too.

Maybe I'll change my location to Area 51 … but that would be Classified then ! evil grin

I'm now from Afghanistan.
huh? Do they even have the internet there !?!?!? huh? wink

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP17 Sep 2018 2:55 p.m. PST

Wow, the things you all will start tempests in a teacup over never ceases to amaze me…………

The thing I'm more worried over is that perhaps the vote wasn't secure, and there's been meddling by nefarious parties.

I demand a recount!

Legion 417 Sep 2018 5:53 p.m. PST

Wow, the things you all will start tempests in a teacup over never ceases to amaze me…………
Very much so … thumbs up

dapeters19 Sep 2018 11:48 a.m. PST

+1 Winston Smith

And what if your "National identity" is actually a minority in a given country? And then just for fun you move to another country?

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian20 Sep 2018 3:49 p.m. PST

ToysnSoldiers's account has been Locked, since he is a troll who has previously been banned from TMP.

Legion 421 Sep 2018 8:17 a.m. PST

I like the NO trolls policy ! thumbs up evil grin

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