"Uniforms of Russian General Officers" Topic
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| Rittmester | 10 Jul 2018 3:47 a.m. PST |
I am trying to figure out whether the Russian general officers used white/orange or black feather plumes on their bicornes. They are depicted with both on different images/sources, however, the field officers seem to be only depicted with black plumes. Could it be that the white plumes were for Generals of divisions and higher, while the lower ranking used black, or was the white fetaher plume for dress uniform while the black was for the field uniform? |
Sho Boki  | 10 Jul 2018 4:11 a.m. PST |
Black plumes – infantry and artillery generals.
White plumes – cavalry generals. |
| Rittmester | 10 Jul 2018 4:23 a.m. PST |
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| John Tyson | 10 Jul 2018 5:21 p.m. PST |
I'm certainly no expert, but most of the illustrations I see of Napoleonic era Russian Generals, their bicorne plumes were Black, White, and Red/Orange. Admittedly, the color order from top to bottom varies. God bless,
John T. |
| jeffreyw3 | 10 Jul 2018 6:20 p.m. PST |
In this case, a picture is worth a thousand words. Parxaev's Русская Армия 1812 – 1814 has a nice drawing of the two types of plumes. The cavalry plume is a mix of black and orange plumes/feathers with larger, white plumes over the top. Infantry and artillery have a mix of white and orange plumes with black on top.
If you ask this question on the FB The Napoleonic Wargamer group, I'll post a photo. |
| John Tyson | 11 Jul 2018 4:47 a.m. PST |
Mixed color plumes
see the infantry and cavalry pics at this TMP link:
TMP link Raevsky leading a charge.
God bless,
John T. |
| Rittmester | 11 Jul 2018 7:44 a.m. PST |
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| Beagle | 21 Oct 2021 4:41 p.m. PST |
Anyone know if Russian division, corps and army commanders had personal standards or any other way to display their position on the battlefield? The image of Reynolds arriving at the front line at Gettysburg in the movie springs immediately to mind… |
| SHaT1984 | 21 Oct 2021 9:12 p.m. PST |
Absolutely not.
The Emperor and a very few religious relics (outside of St.P domain) were the only ornaments tolerated.
Russia was not a democracy! The OP offers a static view of uniforms- in earlier years the use of 'Shefs' option to use their regiments uniform with Generals regalia was apparantly quite widespread.
Otherwise, why 'regulate' the matter in 1811 or so?
~d |
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