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Cacique Caribe31 May 2018 11:31 p.m. PST

A look at the Matchbox Arctic "rovers" at Walmart made me wonder …

A) How soon before the Antarctic is fought over? Ten years? Fifty? A hundred years?

B) What sort of military forces would be deployed?

C) Could this be a suitable 15mm gaming scenario? What Figures? What vehicles?

D) Got any good terrain ideas? What would military stations/bases look like in Antarctica?

Dan
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Grimmnar31 May 2018 11:53 p.m. PST

CC,

There been wars with the five factions over the Antartic for near four decades now. ;-)

Grimm

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP01 Jun 2018 5:32 a.m. PST

I've picked up a few of those Matchbox snow vehicles just in case I need them at some future point.

Personal logo StoneMtnMinis Supporting Member of TMP01 Jun 2018 5:33 a.m. PST

Oh Man! Way to ruin my day CC. I totally suck at mandarin.

Dave

mad monkey 101 Jun 2018 6:11 a.m. PST
Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP01 Jun 2018 7:56 a.m. PST

Too damn cold … let whoever wants it have it … snowflake

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP01 Jun 2018 8:08 a.m. PST

I thought Khurasan made some 15mm troops in Arctic gear, but I can't find them now. There is the old 25mm not Ice Station Zebra range that I believe is currently out of production.

Cacique Caribe01 Jun 2018 10:39 a.m. PST

I wonder how many women have given birth to Antarcticans (sp?).

Do they have pale blue skin like the Andorians in Star Trek? Anyone know? :)

Dan

ROUWetPatchBehindTheSofa01 Jun 2018 10:46 a.m. PST

I think Argentina and Chile have shipped pregnant women to give birth on the continent… I assume because they believe it gives weight to their territorial claims! No idea on numbers.

Cacique Caribe01 Jun 2018 12:27 p.m. PST

If that's true then I don't think they were the first to do so.

Dan

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP01 Jun 2018 2:11 p.m. PST

Australia owns most of the Antarctic and have stocked their territory with killer drop bears.

No one else need apply.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP01 Jun 2018 3:11 p.m. PST

have pale blue skin like the Andorians in Star Trek
Those "Andi" babes are hot ! evil grin But those squiggly antennas things on there heads would freak my out after a while ! huh?

McWong7302 Jun 2018 3:03 a.m. PST

Factions in Antartica…???

Cacique Caribe02 Jun 2018 4:17 a.m. PST

Each penguin species is a faction, I guess.

Dan
PS. And we could also include 19 potential factions of polar bears!
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Tony S02 Jun 2018 6:09 a.m. PST

I used to love playing that old SPI game, "War in the Ice". What a great idea Dan!

Cacique Caribe02 Jun 2018 8:18 a.m. PST

Tony

Glad you like the idea.

Was "War in the Ice" based on the "Ice Station Zebra" scenario?

Dan

Lion in the Stars03 Jun 2018 3:47 a.m. PST

Khurasan's cold-weather guys can be found in the 'Planet 15' range.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP03 Jun 2018 7:14 a.m. PST

Didn't Steve Jackson do an Artic future war game ? I have the small "pocket size" game in my "archives" somewhere … It was pretty good. Similar to the ORGE game in that format, IIRC …

Cacique Caribe03 Jun 2018 8:21 a.m. PST

Tony S

Was this the SPI game?

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Cacique Caribe03 Jun 2018 9:00 a.m. PST

WHAT IF … the world powers are all rushing to Antarctica because of what happened at "Outpost 31"?

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Dan
PS. Or would they nuke the entire site from orbit, just to be sure?

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP03 Jun 2018 7:42 p.m. PST

Yes that looks like SPI … looks pretty interesting too !

Cacique Caribe04 Jun 2018 11:37 a.m. PST

Now I can't get that "song" out of my head:

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Dan

Hey You04 Jun 2018 12:34 p.m. PST

Thanks for the link to the boardgamegeek page Dan. I maxed out the map there. It's great and could be used for the whole campaign I think.

Hey You04 Jun 2018 12:47 p.m. PST

Would we see equipment like this (ZTD-05 amphibious assault vehicle) or would we see more air assets?

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Hey You04 Jun 2018 1:18 p.m. PST

China's fourth Antarctic research base Taishan station in this undated photo. [Photo/Xinhua]

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Already looking for 15mm-ish matchbox vehicles now.

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Cacique Caribe04 Jun 2018 4:27 p.m. PST

I've acquired a handful of Matchbox vehicles these last few years, specifically for future Antarctica scenarios or on some frozen world somewhere.

Okay, more than a handful. Maybe a dozen by now. :)

Dan
PS. Taishan would definitely be an interesting terrain project, if someone was planning on making it. Not only is it an interesting shape, it is also close to the Norwegian base from the movie The Thing. :)

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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP05 Jun 2018 5:53 a.m. PST

Let the Chinese stay out in the cold ! snowflake evil grin

Lion in the Stars05 Jun 2018 3:43 p.m. PST

Dear lord, is that a Chinare C-47?

Hey You05 Jun 2018 5:43 p.m. PST

So more vehicle pics:

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I don't think hardcore military assets would be employed but maybe conversions of the civilian type vehicles such as the ones above.

A bunch of pics are also at chinare.cn/tj/tj-1.htm

I am not meaning to point out just the Chinese. I think all countries have an chance to be involved in the fictitious war. I just started thinking about how to get 15mm Chinese vehicles. I think I would also like to follow up with the Norwegians next.

One catalyst could be the James Arness creature (I need a 1 inch figure for him). Maybe the ship wasn't destroyed. News would spread and then all the nearby nation-state actors would move on securing the assets for scientific reasons (yeah scientific, that's right). It might not be friendly research either. And there maybe be one-off partnerships between countries that don't normally get along.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP06 Jun 2018 8:27 a.m. PST

When it doubt … get aliens involved somehow …

Hey You06 Jun 2018 11:15 a.m. PST

It's doesn't have to involve aliens, but I do have alien stuff in 15mm.(smile).

We could also take a section from the Ice Station Zebra playbook and have a spy satellite (sorry atmospheric research satellite) fall somewhere on the ice near several claimed zones. But all the players would have to be polite and call each other "Sir" and maintain civility while they figure out how to get to said satellite.

Cacique Caribe06 Jun 2018 4:57 p.m. PST

Legion: "When it doubt … get aliens involved somehow …"

Perhaps saurians returning home, perhaps to their holiest sites in Antarctica.

I seriously doubt that they'll like the change in scenery ("furry mammals" now rule the planet) and their home continent is now almost entirely covered in ice. :)

Dan

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP07 Jun 2018 5:44 a.m. PST

It's doesn't have to involve aliens, but I do have alien stuff in 15mm.(smile).
True … by I only have 6mm … evil grin link

Perhaps saurians returning home, perhaps to their holiest sites in Antarctica.

Got'm … in 6mm of course … evil grin
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Cacique Caribe07 Jun 2018 10:42 a.m. PST

They would work just fine as highly intelligent Pygmy saurians in a 15mm world.

Dan
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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP09 Jun 2018 7:39 a.m. PST

How you calling a Pygmy Humie ?!?!? huh?

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP10 Jun 2018 9:25 a.m. PST

Errata : That should read – "Who are you … " old fart

Cacique Caribe22 Jul 2018 8:00 p.m. PST

Lol

Dan

Lookingglassman05 Aug 2018 5:06 p.m. PST

The Book, "Thunder Of Erebus" is a about a war between the US and Russia in the Antarctic

Cacique Caribe05 Aug 2018 5:57 p.m. PST

Lookingglassman

While one book summary speaks of a joint mission of the US and the post-Soviet Russian Federation, this reviewer seems to think that Russia is still Soviet*.

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So which Russian were they in the book? Cold War Russian Commies or post-Communist Russians? The latter is slightly believable, while the former would have been a completely fantasy setting. : )

Dan
* Perhaps the review was written by one of those college kids who are being made to believe that Russia is still Soviet (and still our greatest enemy) and that China is now Capitalist (and suddenly our greatest friend).

Maxshadow06 Aug 2018 7:18 p.m. PST

I can't get past that DC-3. I'm going go and see if I can drag a plane enthusiast over to confirm.

Sundance07 Aug 2018 6:04 a.m. PST

Yumm! Krill balls!

Baconheimer11 Aug 2018 6:10 p.m. PST

@Legion 4, what exactly are those saurian figures you have? I really like them.

Baconheimer

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