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Corporal Fagen08 Apr 2018 10:14 a.m. PST

I'm an AWI newbie and i'm trying to sort out the various Erbprinz units.

The grenadiers in the Minnigerode grenadier battalion were from Brunswick and had pink facings

The Hesse-Cassel fusilier regiment had pink facings and carried a crimson flag

The Hesse-Hanau musketeer regiment had crimson facings and carried a pink flag

Is this all correct?

Personal logo herkybird Supporting Member of TMP08 Apr 2018 10:52 a.m. PST

Hesse Cassel

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Minigerode
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Hesse Hanau
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Hope these help?

Fridericus08 Apr 2018 12:29 p.m. PST

Grenadier Battalion von Minnigerode was a Hesse-Cassel unit, the Erbprinz grenadiers were from the Hesse-Cassel regiment.
At my blog you can find the Minnigerodes and the Hesse-Hanau regiment Erbprinz. "Erbprinz" is a bit confusing a topic, as Hesse-Cassel had a regiment of this name, and Hesse-Hanau as well. One belonged to Friedrich of Hesse-Cassel, and the other to his son Wilhelm. Father and son didn't get on well with one another!

Fridericus08 Apr 2018 12:32 p.m. PST

Oh, I fogot the links:
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Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP08 Apr 2018 12:34 p.m. PST

Minigerode Grenadier battalion was from Hesse Cassel, not Brunswick.
It was composed of the Grenadier companies from 4 different Regiments.
Only the company from the Erbprinz Regiment had pink facings. The other three companies had black, orange and yellow facings.

The Hesse Hanau Erbprinz Regiment was part of Burgoyne's army that invaded New York from Canada. It was always a musketeer Regiment, wearing a tricorne hat.

The Hesse Cassel Erbprinz Regiment was with the main army. After 1780, it switched to crimson facings. That was probably due to getting a new draft of uniforms from home. At that time it also turned in its expensive fusilier cap and went with the tricorne, becoming a musketeer Regiment. It's Grenadier company was detached to serve with the Minigerode Grenadier battalion. It's Grenadier company did not fight with the parent Regiment.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP08 Apr 2018 12:38 p.m. PST

"Erbprinz" means that the "colonel" of the Regiment was the Duke's heir.
NOT the colonel commanding in the field, but the commander of the Regiment. He basically owned it, chose lace and button patterns, etc.

Corporal Fagen08 Apr 2018 1:05 p.m. PST

Ok, thanks. So, other than the Minnigerode grenadiers being from Brunswick, I guess I was correct. To verify, the fusiliers carried a crimson flag? And does anyone online sell the musketeers' wonderful pink flag?

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP08 Apr 2018 1:27 p.m. PST

This is the flag of Hesse Hanau Regiment Erbprinz.
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If you wish to thoroughly confuse yourself on the subject of Hessian (Hesse Cassel) flags, go here.
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Personal logo herkybird Supporting Member of TMP09 Apr 2018 8:25 p.m. PST

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Found these, for the Companiefahn.

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