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monk2002uk24 Aug 2017 12:07 p.m. PST

This was the collier that was converted into a troop-landing ship for Gallipoli. It was run ashore near Cape Helles. Are there any models that could be used? 1/600 through 1/2400 scale?

Many thanks for any help as I am preparing to wargame the Gallipoli landings and subsequent campaign.

Robert

Chuckaroobob24 Aug 2017 2:12 p.m. PST

I bought one of the paper ships from Reviresco. The SS Minos is 1/64 and I think it would suit.

In fact, I was considering using it for the River Clyde myself!

monk2002uk25 Aug 2017 12:17 a.m. PST

Thank you for raising this option. Very nice looking kit and it would be great for 28mm or 15mm games. Perfect for River Clyde in these scales. My current need is for something much smaller, which would fit with 6mm figures where each stand represents a company of infantry. 1/600 scale is as big as will look reasonable IMHO.

Robert

47Ronin25 Aug 2017 9:25 a.m. PST

FYI, I played in a Gallipoli game hosted by the late Mark Hayes (co-author of "The Last Crusade" rules for WWI games) at an HMGS convention many years ago that included a model of the River Clyde. I don't know the scale of the ship, but the figures were in 15mm.

Great game hosted by a great GM.

P.S.--I believe there was also a Wargames Illustrated cover story on the Gallipoli campaign and the terrain board that they brought to one of the conventions a couple of years ago.

Yellow Admiral25 Aug 2017 12:47 p.m. PST

A 1/600 scale 4000 ton cargo ship will probably be 6-7" long. Heroics and Ros now carries the old Skytrex 1/600 coastal forces range, which includes merchant ships for the MTBs and MGBs to hunt or defend. I found this TMP page with some pictures of Bezmozgu7's nicely painted examples of these. The newer company PT Dockyard also stocks coastal forces which should include targets like tramp steamers.

In 1/1200 scale I only know of the old Hallmark line (sold by Magister Militum and others), and all the expensive old gems like Navis, Neptune, Superior, etc. (sold by aggregators like this). You might be able to find something on Shapeways.

There are a lot of choices in 1/2400:

C-in-C sells some merchant ships in the US and British WWII ranges. The most appropriate model is probably the MF-23 Tramp Steamer, which you can see in photos on this TMP page.

GHQ also sells 1/2400 non-combatants and semi-combatants in their WWII Micronauts range. Start with the UK category, click around and see if one looks right.

Viking Forge may have some suitable ships, but not all of them are photographed, so it may be hard to tell. The most likely place to find merchant-y ships is in the US WWII range.

Panzerschiffe sells "merchant ship groups", one of which might contain a suitable miniature. I bought a couple of these groups to use as targets, objectives, scenery, etc. in naval games, and found they were *very* plain and needed quite a bit of dressing up to look nice. I added wire cranes, boats, anchors and anchor chains, and painted on portholes. No matter what I do I still don't like them as much as the C-in-C and GHQ civilian ships I have.

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monk2002uk26 Aug 2017 12:54 a.m. PST

Extremely helpful. Thank you so much! I have a 1/600 WW1 resupply ship from the Oceania range. It is fine for 6mm scale so I will check out the H&R and PT Dockyard ranges, as well as the smaller scale options too.

Robert

monk2002uk30 Aug 2017 11:33 a.m. PST

Here is an update on progress, thanks to all the help!

link

Robert

monk2002uk01 Sep 2017 6:58 a.m. PST

The ship is sitting too low in the 'water' so I will build up the hull next.

Robert

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