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Weasel17 Jan 2017 12:18 p.m. PST

A few books I have read through comment on Russian muskets having a very poor reputation, others comment on poor quality gun powder, yet others don't mention it at all or suggest that Russian muskets were built for durability over accuracy.


Is there a consensus view?

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP17 Jan 2017 12:25 p.m. PST

Bound to think the spikey thing on the end was more important….and the willingness to close with the enemy and use them. So much must have also depended on the training of the chaps using them, even if aiming was not the done thing.

Artillery sure, but in the end, the lesson of the era seemed to be cold steel and "elan" was what decided when two units closed.

OK, I admit the tragedy was applying the same idea a century later..maybe even 50 years later in Pennsylvania

keithbarker17 Jan 2017 12:57 p.m. PST

This might help…

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But IIRC it wasnt a consensus grin

//Keith

jeffreyw317 Jan 2017 6:10 p.m. PST

Yes, I was going to ask if we hadn't just finished going through all this in minute detail? Is there a need to re-stir the pot?

Weasel17 Jan 2017 6:33 p.m. PST

Ah, forgive me, I did not see that topic.

Please move along :)

Apparently people got super mad in that one.

jeffreyw317 Jan 2017 6:59 p.m. PST

grin

Clays Russians21 Jan 2017 9:59 p.m. PST

Lots of brownbesses in the 1812 campaign

summerfield23 Jan 2017 4:21 a.m. PST

The comments upon the poor muskets can be traced to Major Wilson in the 1805-07 campaign. The Russians had introduced the good M1808 musket and by 1812 had huge supplies of India Pattern Brown Besses. The manufacturies were administered by many who were imported from Britain and in particular Scotland & Burmingham.

Their powder had been improved by new powder mills introduced and under advice from Britain.
Stephen

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