"Scots gray during WSS" Topic

Would these still be propper dragoons st this point or bei n "horse" uniforms.

Weren't the Greys always a dragoon regiment?

1681 The Royal Regiment of Scots Dragoons
<1683 Grey coats
<1693 Red coats
1694 Numbered 4th ?grey horses
1706< Mitre 'grenadier' cap
1707 Royal North British Dragoons
1713 Numbered 2nd on 'British' establishment

The answer to your question depends on what you mean by a proper dragoon and at what date in WOSS. When dragoons graduated to wearing a cocked hat, I'm not sure, but it is fair to assume that until the Greys adopted a grenadier cap (not certain- associated with X Ramillies in 1706 but not an instant event), they were wearing a cocked hat.

The subject is batted around fairly thoroughly here.

TMP link

At the Schellenberg and at Blenheim they appear to have fought dismounted (so more like dragoons) but at Ramillies and Malplaquet they had a cavalry role, defeating French Maison du Roi at Ramillies and capturing French Household cavalry standard at Malplaquet. The rules we play with usually regard English dragoons of this period as cavalry, which is, think reasonable for this particular regiment.

They wore Dragoon uniforms of course, with a single shoulder belt. Tricornes by WSS.

In terms of their combat status- contemporary inspection reports (1698 and 1707) make a point of stating that the Regiment was as well mounted as a Regiment of Horse.

defeating French Maison du Roi at Ramillies

As far as I remember they fought on right flank of the Allied army, while Maison du Roi fought on exreme right of French army, so the did not contact. Maybe you mistook Maison du Roi with infantry regiment du Roi, who was indeed routed by dragoons in this battle.

Didn't the greys beat the regiment du roi while on foot? During the fighting in blindheim village?

Were there any fighting inside the Blindheim village ?

Not sure i just read in great and glorious days.

Just a refrence about the north and grey regiment beating the du roi,

But the brigade commander dosent seem right? Was there also a foot regiment refered to as the north and greys?

There was infantry regiment North & Grey indeed at both Blenheim nad Ramillies.
But there were no fighting inside Blindheim village in any stage of the battle.

The colonel was William North, who was both 6th Baron North and 2nd Baron Grey and was known as Lord North and Grey.

I dimly remember reading a suggestion that when the Scots Greys first acquired the name, it was a reference to the colour of their coats rather than he colour of their horses (as in Covenanter Grey) and that the grey horses came a bit later after red coats had been adopted. I have no source for this and, indeed, the writer may been indulging in some wide ranging speculation.

But there were no fighting inside Blindheim village in any stage of the battle.

Acording to great and glorious days there are was, with french forced back to the church at one point, and descriptions of house to house fighting.

Acording to great and glorious days there are was, with french forced back to the church at one point, and descriptions of house to house fighting.

I'll check in books on my shelf then.

I dimly remember reading a suggestion that when the Scots Greys first acquired the name, it was a reference to the colour of their coats rather than he colour of their horses (as in Covenanter Grey) and that the grey horses came a bit later after red coats had been adopted. I have no source for this and, indeed, the writer may been indulging in some wide ranging speculation.

I couldn't quote you chapter and verse at the minute but if you search around you'll find that notion backed up in various places on line.

"I dimly remember reading a suggestion that when the Scots Greys first acquired the name, it was a reference to the colour of their coats"

If I had read my copy of Wargames Illustrated a little earlier I would have seen this very point being made.