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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian shows one way to base 15mm figures on a stand.


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Brian Smaller11 Mar 2016 2:34 a.m. PST

Time to back out the changes you made Bill or reload a backup.

Jubilation T Cornpone11 Mar 2016 2:37 a.m. PST

I'd read about it on TMP but I can't…..

GeoffQRF11 Mar 2016 2:38 a.m. PST

Yep, still cant see anything on any old topics

Bandolier11 Mar 2016 3:53 a.m. PST

Workplace productivity is increasing everywhere…and it's all Bill's fault.

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP11 Mar 2016 4:03 a.m. PST

The Lounge is fine.

Several of us are fiddling, whilst others are eating cake (& suggesting the non-Lounge denizens should eat some too).

Old Gibbons has suggested we're past our 'use by date' but Nemo thinks it'll all work out in the end.

Mute Bystander11 Mar 2016 4:12 a.m. PST

The polls seem to be working. Um, no comment beyond that, I need stitches in my tongue.

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP11 Mar 2016 4:31 a.m. PST

You type with your tongue?

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian11 Mar 2016 5:19 a.m. PST

Yes, it looks like some data may have been lost (i.e., a few day's worth of posts).

I'll check on it further… frown

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP11 Mar 2016 5:56 a.m. PST

Yup still broken for me too…

GamesPoet Supporting Member of TMP11 Mar 2016 6:41 a.m. PST

Ouch. Looks like the topics are still there, but the posts gone.

Tommy2011 Mar 2016 6:54 a.m. PST

I thought this was going to be a Star Trek thread…

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP11 Mar 2016 7:31 a.m. PST

Tommy20 you win 50 Internet dollars for best reply

Hafen von Schlockenberg11 Mar 2016 8:57 a.m. PST

Maybe there should be a "Reconstructing Lost Posts" board?

Martin From Canada11 Mar 2016 9:47 a.m. PST

If I may ask Kyoteblue, what flavour of T-55?

Russ Lockwood11 Mar 2016 11:03 a.m. PST

Hang in there, Bill. Even Amazon suffers down sites and other problems from time to time.

RetroBoom11 Mar 2016 11:59 a.m. PST

can anyone explain how this kind of thing happens? Ive never understood why TMP has these bugs so often, and has to close down a couple hours every single day. No other forum I've ever encountered had similar issues.

MajorB11 Mar 2016 12:10 p.m. PST

can anyone explain how this kind of thing happens? Ive never understood why TMP has these bugs so often, and has to close down a couple hours every single day. No other forum I've ever encountered had similar issues.

TMP is not like other forums (fora?). The backend database and code are largely bespoke code written by Bill himself. Not only that, but it's been around for at least 20 years and thus predates most (all?) of the other forums. That's why Bill had to write most of the code himself. Back then he had no choice.

RetroBoom11 Mar 2016 12:22 p.m. PST

which is very impressive, but now it's just annoying. Time to change to to a reliable alternative.

Old Contemptibles11 Mar 2016 12:34 p.m. PST

suing s ong. I ug.

Zeelow11 Mar 2016 12:57 p.m. PST

I love to take a trip in time-space and not remember why, and how I did it! thumbs up !

This is fun!

Toronto4811 Mar 2016 1:52 p.m. PST

Maybe Bill should hire someone who has more "experience" in providing maintenance service and to work on the long promised TMP4.0

This would allow Bill more time to work on more relevant Editorial duties such as content and contacts with users and advertisers

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP11 Mar 2016 2:25 p.m. PST

Not that I'm a pessimist…..

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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian11 Mar 2016 2:29 p.m. PST

Yes, inappropriate database engine and writing too much code to deal with input data (posts) instead of letting a proper database structure and constraints do all the heavy lifting.

How could you possibly tell? Know-it-alls…

The above function for post counts is obviously not performed in TMP that way. Post counts here seem to be done by individual row processing code instead of the simple group process the above statement represents and does not need two hours of maintenance to repair.

Since you have no familiarity with the database or development language we use, perhaps you should be less arrogant?

The code behind this website does some really remarkable things, and in many ways is still ahead of commercial systems which are out there. As for my competence, I'm well experienced in both programming and information systems, and have worked for some of the larger software companies in the world.

Maybe Bill should hire someone who has more "experience" in providing maintenance service and to work on the long promised TMP4.0

This would allow Bill more time to work on more relevant Editorial duties such as content and contacts with users and advertisers

First, not sure there is anyone with "more" experience… I've been doing this for decades. Hard to beat that.

Even if you could find such a person, imagine how much they would cost, and the imagine how much TMP would have to raise to pay that person. Do you think this little hobby website could raise such a sum?

No, it makes much more sense to do what I have been doing – hiring editors to handle "content and contacts with users and advertisers" so that I can stay working where I am most needed.

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP11 Mar 2016 2:29 p.m. PST

Ochoin, a couple of people survived that, so not that bad!

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian11 Mar 2016 2:32 p.m. PST

Post removed from banned member returning to "concern troll."

Goonfighter11 Mar 2016 2:41 p.m. PST

I'm not a programmer but have been involved as a user in testing a few system roll outs. If the IT boffins ever said no we're not taking the usual precautions, there'd have a few raised eyebrows…..

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian11 Mar 2016 2:43 p.m. PST

If the IT boffins ever said no we're not taking the usual precautions, there'd have a few raised eyebrows…..

grin

Hafen von Schlockenberg11 Mar 2016 2:45 p.m. PST

Or in this case,burned eyebrows.

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP11 Mar 2016 3:04 p.m. PST

a couple of people survived that

OK (reading from list), put up your hands if you're
young lovers, a brother & sister, a retired Jewish hardware store owner or a cruise ship entertainer.

The rest of us better learn to tread water & hold our breath.

Hafen von Schlockenberg11 Mar 2016 3:48 p.m. PST

Ochoin, I just got an insulting PM,allegedly from you. Didn't sound like you. Hijack? Given the weird stuff going on the last couple of days, I'm beginning to suspect concerted attack.
Just wanted to check.

Winston Smith11 Mar 2016 4:09 p.m. PST

To answer a grammar query from above, the nominative and accusative plural of the LATIN noun "forum" is "fora". However, it is not for genitive, dative or ablative.
For the English noun "forum", stick an s (NOT AN APOSTROPHE s) on the end of it.
Let's not try to talk like we're butlers.

Winston Smith11 Mar 2016 4:10 p.m. PST

Oh, and by the way, "Free Ditto Tango".

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse12 Mar 2016 8:54 a.m. PST

Oppenheimer the Third ? Another troll drive by ? It seems to be almost daily now sadly ?

Hafen von Schlockenberg12 Mar 2016 10:45 a.m. PST

I would like to say that the "ochoin" who sent me the PM I referred to above was not the real one,who has subsequently sent me several gracious PM's.
I'm guessing the oppenheimer guy,before he got locked. Apologies to the real ochoin if I caused any distress. I only posted the query here because I was not sure where my PM reply would be going. Confusing.
Which I suppose was the idea.

Or I should say,"idea".

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian12 Mar 2016 6:44 p.m. PST

Oppenheimer the Third ? Another troll drive by ? It seems to be almost daily now sadly ?

He was previously known as Rashtrakuta (2015-2016).

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse13 Mar 2016 6:56 a.m. PST

Good hit Bill !

Hafen von Schlockenberg14 Mar 2016 8:18 p.m. PST

Jeez,Bill! It was just a little joke!

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse15 Mar 2016 7:19 a.m. PST

With all the drive by trolling [see above DELETED] and the "trolls" still on the site that are just rude, etc., TMP members. Bill is a little "jumpy" I'd think, and IMO it is justified …

A lot of drama, etc., for a site about "adults?!?" playing with toy soldiers … I've been saying that a lot lately …

Tommy2016 Mar 2016 8:25 a.m. PST

I still think a lot of this, maybe not all, but a lot, could be avoided by requiring a valid e-mail address before a new member can post.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian16 Mar 2016 4:31 p.m. PST

I still think a lot of this, maybe not all, but a lot, could be avoided by requiring a valid e-mail address before a new member can post.

We do require that, but it is very easy to get a yahoo.com or gmail.com email address, or a disposable email address from many suppliers.

Hafen von Schlockenberg16 Mar 2016 5:47 p.m. PST

Aaaand,my "little joke" was based on Bill's dating typo,now corrected,making it pointless.

Correction--more pointless than normal.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse17 Mar 2016 7:42 a.m. PST

Auto-correct some times changes my words and I don't notice it until later … All part of the new normal ! wink

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse17 Mar 2016 8:02 a.m. PST

Something else, I thought about. I know I put my actual name in my profile. Unlike many others, Which is different than my screen name. And later realized it was used against me by the F/Trolls etc. … Like looking me up on Linked In, etc. …

Thought is would be safe to do that again on a site that was basically populated by "Adults". That just happened to like playing with Toy Soldiers. What could be more harmless ?! Well as we see and it's all across the net. Trolls, losers, etc., find this a good outlet for their "odd", "immature", etc., behavior, etc. …

And as I said on another thread about people should be using "good" internet manners, etc. … TMP link And it almost turned into and argument over that !?!? huh?

So all that being said, I know as a semi-retired PI. Using a false name in any "crime ?" is a given. But I'd think if someone does not at least use their real name. Or at least a more reasonable "nom de plum" ? So to speak they would be suspect.
We have to review paper trails, etc., all the time. And see many fake names that it does not take long to figure out. A fake name is a cover, for someone who is trying to hide something, etc., yes ?

Like on a site about playing with toys, maybe they don't want to be ID'd, etc. ?

I know it won't be a 100% effective. But possibly making members use their real name or a reasonable facsimile, might cut down on the Trolls ? I mean think about it … if someone's profile say his name is John Smith. That might be red flag ? Just say'n

I have nothing to hide and I am up front generally about everything I post. Some, as I found out dislike my "openness", etc. … No real mystery … on a site about playing with toys, yes ?

Hafen von Schlockenberg17 Mar 2016 8:44 a.m. PST

Uh-oh…

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse17 Mar 2016 12:53 p.m. PST

Yes I found that out … and not only are the crazies on the net … but they walk among us ! huh?

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