"Elitism?" Topic

Charging someone with being elitist is intended to provide a moral check on someone's behavior or opinion.

Does elitism (however you define it) warrant public rebuke?

No – crying elitism deserves public rebuke.

Charging someone with elitism is saying you know what they are thinking, why they exhibited a specific behaviour or what you perceive to be general series of behaviours. Even if you are precisely correct about an individual's internal motivations for their behavior (which is obscenely unlikely), there's no way you could know that you are.

Inappropriate behaviour warrants public rebuke.

You are admitting you are not as good if you charge elitism.

Snobbery is quite repellent, so I guess it depends how you do define it.

Wow, each week there is a new thing to be censured for.
AS to the OP, neither being 'elitist' or charging someone as being so should warrant public rebuke or any of the other TMP punishments.
We are supposed to (at this stage of our lives) be wearing big boy (or girl) pants so just deal with it.

Why don't you push the "!" button and put your case before Bill instead of playing the victim card publicly?

I trust Bill will make the call as he sees fit.

And, no, it is not intended as anything but a commentary on observed behavior.

Given the continued tolerance and in some cases rising popularity and acceptance of many public figures despite behavior that should disgust a reasonable human being, I find a certain degree of elitism hard to not cultivate at least in a broader context.

In gaming since we are all playing with toy soldiers to one degree or another, it should be rarer, unless we are talking about people who consistently play with unpainted figures.

Define 'elitism'. Here are few attempts:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elitism

I presume in the context it is intended to be pejorative, but I would suggest a brief look at the way our entire society and global economic system is organised would infer that 'elitism' actually means 'how things are' and 'no-one ever said life was fair'.

Can't you guys just accept a +1 factor and leave it at that?

Some might take that as a compliment.

I would rather be elite than scum of the earth.

You are admitting you are not as good if you charge elitism.

I disagree. Accusing someone of elitism says that you believe they are inappropriately applying value ranking system. That doesn't even require considering the system is valid, let alone placing yourself in it.

I would rather be elite than scum of the earth.

YouTube link

I would suggest a brief look at the way our entire society and global economic system is organised would infer that 'elitism' actually means 'how things are'

I disagree with that, as well. In the first sentence of the definition you link, it describes elitism as a "belief" or "attitude" rather than a system that drives outcomes.

Whether or not certain people's views based on elitist characteristics actually are given more influence in society is a different thing than the belief that such is the case.

What thread brought this first world problem on?

Reminds me of the definition of "fanatic": Somebody who believes in something a bit more than you do.

What thread brought this first world problem on?

TMP link

I don't know that I'd call it a "problem". It's pretty silly, that's all & no harm done.

Mute Bystander totally misunderstood my point, for some reason took it personally &, I think, hurled the dreaded 'e' word as some sort of snarky insult.

It's only recently on TMP that I came across the concept that being labelled "elite" could be seen as a flaw.

I've always thought it a generally unattainable plane that everyone should aspire to. "Levelling" seems to stick everyone &everything in mediocrity. Go tell the SAS they are stuck up for calling themselves an elite.

At any rate, anyone thinking I would assign myself the status of "elite figure painter" hasn't seen my armies!

On the internet, "elitist" tends to mean "has no life".

In real life, it tends to mean "People on TV"

If you are better at something than most, you are elite.
If you think you are better than others but demonstrably are not, you are an elitist.

It's hardly the worst thing to be accused of. But in this era of micro-aggressions and safe spaces, all icky things are bad.

No public rebuke.

Elitism really gets my dander up, in my day we'd have the wallah flogged, but thats what you get for mixing with the wrong sort…

oh wait a minute… THAT sort of elitism.

(slightly tounge in cheek)

Blimey. What a thing to get upset about.

Find out if you are merely elite here, or have a puffed up sense of your own importance:

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So, are you saying that I can't field an army full of elite regiments? Are you saying that gamers shouldn't have Nap. French Imperial Guard, FPW Prussian Guard, Waffen-SS units (especially the first 12), Green Berets in Vietnam, or Spetznaz units?

That's the only form of 'elitism' I see that applies to gaming. Otherwise, this kind of social justice activism belongs on the Hufflepuff post or some other whiney forum for adolescents.

Everyone is an 'elitist' in one way or another, we are discriminating in what we chose to eat, whom we chose to marry, and what armies we chose to paint. If some whiny adolescent child in a supposed grown-up body wants to charge me with 'elitism' fine. I have no interest in other people's opinions, especially when it concerns some form of supposed altruism that doesn't exist, will never exist and shouldn't exist.

It seems that every week, adult, grown men find something or someone that upsets them on this forum. For goodness sakes, I get enough of this crap at work (I'm a literature professor who has to deal with whiny all day). I don't need this bellyaching in my hobby.

Well at least 'sjws' is a thing, although I had to look it up. I was concerned that it might have been another word misspelt.

I am OK with a certain amount of elitism … trying to do your best isn't a bad thing – but it isn't clever or appropriate to disrespect the achievement of others.

Phil

An 'elitist' is clearly someone who has annoyed me by knowing more than I do.

Except if I'm actually the elitist, of course, in which case I have illuminated the life of some ungrateful troglodyte.

Those who worry endlessly about the easily offended appear to be easily offended.