 ochoin  | 11 Dec 2015 2:27 a.m. PST |
I'm loathe to criticise the choices of others but I do feel what you put into something is what you take out. |
| Mute Bystander | 11 Dec 2015 2:50 a.m. PST |
Elitist much? loathe to criticize That's why you posted that I am sure. DWS. I would rather play then paint. You don't like my painting? Go somewhere else and let us have fun. |
| ZULUPAUL | 11 Dec 2015 3:15 a.m. PST |
I paint to satisfy myself. I'm not very good but better than I was 20+ years ago when I started. Don't game much as I used to either. |
| Winston Smith | 11 Dec 2015 4:02 a.m. PST |
It's just as much work to paint sloppily , so why not try to do a good job? |
| ochoin | 11 Dec 2015 5:27 a.m. PST |
I tend to agree Winston. Elitist much? No. I wish my painting was good enough to qualify as "elite". I rather gather to aspire to be better than average is, for some esoteric reason, looked down on by some. Odd. |
| Martin Rapier | 11 Dec 2015 5:45 a.m. PST |
"It's just as much work to paint sloppily , so why not try to do a good job?" Because sometimes I really just can't be bothered. Usually a sign that my current 'project increment' is a bit too big. Other times I can be bothered. |
| Frederick | 11 Dec 2015 5:50 a.m. PST |
I like both gaming and painting – and it is much easier to paint for half an hour than to organize a game, although both are great |
 Flashman14 | 11 Dec 2015 6:28 a.m. PST |
Ugly games – not my hobby. |
| 79thPA | 11 Dec 2015 8:32 a.m. PST |
If a person who is a sloppy painter paints significantly more figures, they are not spending less time painting. A sloppy painter may spend more time painting than a "decent" painter. The poll can't be answered with any accuracy because it is based on a false premise. |
| warwell | 11 Dec 2015 9:50 a.m. PST |
It's just as much work to paint sloppily In my experience this statement hasn't been true. Sloppy lets me get done faster so I can play more. |
| Who asked this joker | 11 Dec 2015 11:55 a.m. PST |
They usually get it done faster and have more time to game. That said, you would really have to define "fun." The good painters are clearly having fun painting or they wouldn't do it! |
| Micman | 11 Dec 2015 12:30 p.m. PST |
I am a sloppy painter hate it. I wish I had the skill to do better. Takes me as long to do a sloppy job as the folks who paint well. So it does not get me any more gaming time. |
| FusilierDan | 11 Dec 2015 7:04 p.m. PST |
Define sloppy. I don't paint as well as I used to. Less time to paint, shakey hands and fading eyesight affects my painting. There is a point of return on correcting mistakes or using a style that is quicker or less "clean". I enjoy painting, playing and finishing a project equally. |
| Cyrus the Great | 11 Dec 2015 7:50 p.m. PST |
Ooh, someone didn't take their nap! |
| Old Contemptibles | 11 Dec 2015 7:59 p.m. PST |
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| D A THB | 11 Dec 2015 9:45 p.m. PST |
Not me, I'd spend all my gaming time wishing that I'd done a better job rather than concentrate on the game itself. |
 Doctor X | 11 Dec 2015 9:57 p.m. PST |
Perhaps a sloppy painter has the same level of fun no matter what their figures look like. Those that strive for better painting results are probably just as happy doing the painting and with their results, even though they may finish fewer figures. In the end its a wash. |
 Editor in Chief Bill   | 11 Dec 2015 11:30 p.m. PST |
In the end its a wash. Sounds sloppy to me…  |
| Terrement | 14 Dec 2015 10:07 a.m. PST |
Since only the sloppy painters know how happy they are they are the only ones who are qualified to speak to the issue of how happy they are. As sloppy painters are not non-sloppy painters, they are not qualified to comment on how much more or less happy than other painters they are. |
| Terrement | 14 Dec 2015 10:08 a.m. PST |
Since only the sloppy painters know how much fun they have they are the only ones who are qualified to speak to the issue of how much fun they have. As sloppy painters are not non-sloppy painters, they are not qualified to comment on how much more or less fun they have than other painters. |
| Tom Bryant | 15 Dec 2015 5:29 p.m. PST |
Well said JJ. A lot of time the dust sniffers who turn up their noses at non "Golden Daemon" standard , non GW level paint jobs can't do the work themselves either. This is how I suspect some of the conversations go… "OOOOh here! Take a look at this Bondage Goddess of Knhorne I just did! See the ultra detail on her chainmail bikini and the handcuffs she's wearing…" Why can't you paint like that?" REPLY: "A. I'm not working the 'Chapter approved' GW 28/32/9 million and 6 mm scale that is sooooo popular today with the "in" crowd. B. I'm rarely doing a single character, even in 28mm. and C. I have an army of guys to do that will not be ogled to see if their naughty bits have been shaved or not! I just need to get them to look 'good enough'period!" "Oh, BTW, you DID paint that figure didn't you?" I use the arms length rule. Depending on the scale if I can see it at arms length I need to worry about it. I also invoke the rules of washcoat and drybrush: Washcoats and drybrushings can hide a multitude of painting sins. |
