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Tango0127 Apr 2015 3:49 p.m. PST

"Supporters of the Islamic State say they've declared a caliphate in the deserts of Yemen, where government forces are battling Shiite Houthi rebels, and Al Qaeda fighters are gaining ground amid the chaos.

In a nine minute video published online, the group calls itself Soldiers of the Caliphate in Yemen. They appear, all masked, in a desert landscape and number a dozen or so, bearing automatic rifles. They go through shooting exercises, and crawl through the sand on their elbows while carrying their weapons. In the end they face the camera and the man at the forefront sends his greetings to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the self-declared caliph of the Islamic State. The fighter and several others direct their threats to the Houthi rebels, who are reported to be backed by Iran, and have been fighting the Yemen government for years for greater political representation.

After the Houthis took over the capital Sana'a in January, the conflict between the rebels and government forces escalated. The U.S. Embassy, which had previously maintained staff there to coordinate intelligence efforts targeting Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), was evacuated, and the sitting president, Abed Rabbo Mansour al-Hadi, fled the country to neighboring Saudi Arabia. Since then a Saudi-led coalition has inflicted punishing airstrikes on targets in both Sana'a and the port city of Aden to counter the rebels' advance. Meanwhile, AQAP fighters had advanced on other port cities and territory. The Houthis have said they are now the only ones still fighting al-Qaeda as the crisis continues…"
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Cacique Caribe27 Apr 2015 4:35 p.m. PST

Wait a minute!

I thought that a Muslim sect (whether Sunni or Shia) can have multiple imams, but only recognize and follow a single Caliph at any given time. And that when there have been rival claimants each would call the other a heretic and that they would eventually tear each other apart.

That would be like having a Catholic Pope in Rome and another in Avignon.

Dan
PS. Caliph is defined as "a person considered a political and religious successor to the prophet Muhammad and a leader of the entire Muslim community." Somewhat similar to how Popes are considered to be the legitimate religious successors of the apostle Peter.

Rhino Co27 Apr 2015 4:46 p.m. PST

I'm Spartacus or Santa…

Cacique Caribe27 Apr 2015 5:07 p.m. PST

I thought the ISIS Caliph was seeking the recognition of the rest of the Muslim world (in his case the Sunnis – light green) as their supreme religious leader:

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Dan

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP28 Apr 2015 8:38 a.m. PST

Daesh just loves to be in the headlines ! Whether it's true or not …

cwlinsj28 Apr 2015 10:05 a.m. PST

Sunnis and shia will start fighting over who gets to be the Caliph next. Shia believe that a Caliph must be a direct descendant of Muhammed, while Sunnis believe that he must be from the original tribe of Muhammed.

Yep, thems reason to fight.

ancientsgamer28 Apr 2015 12:10 p.m. PST

It's little things like this that kept the Muslims from conquering even more parts of the world during our Medieval era. Fragmentation in religion, not a novel concept. This map above is rather enlightening. I wonder how many Shia go to a Sunni Mosque because they have no Shia Mosque available. Also, those that left after the fall of the Shah in Iraq, are they all Sunni? I suspect now. The diaspora of the sect is probably more widespread than this map shows, would be my point here.

Also, without splitting hairs here, I though the Saudis sect would be considered Wadifa (spelling). So while being nominally Sunni, it is different and different enough to be considered another sect?

Without getting political, it seems to me that both sides of the Muslim world have big problems. They both have their portion of extremists bent on conquest. One to hasten the Apocalypse and the other to force their "brand" of Islam on all.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP28 Apr 2015 1:06 p.m. PST

Without getting political, it seems to me that both sides of the Muslim world have big problems. They both have their portion of extremists bent on conquest. One to hasten the Apocalypse and the other to force their "brand" of Islam on all.
Yep … I agree … Amen to that !

Cacique Caribe28 Apr 2015 2:45 p.m. PST

"One to hasten the Apocalypse and the other to force their "brand" of Islam on all."

So is ISIS the Muslim version of the Millennium Group?

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Hmm …

Dan

Cacique Caribe01 May 2015 1:21 p.m. PST

It's clear what ISIS believes is best in life:

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Dan

Cacique Caribe03 May 2015 9:51 a.m. PST

Ok.

First, there was ISIS.

Then there was ISWA:

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Now, are they going to call this new one ISY (Islamic State of Yemen)? Or ISSA (Islamic State of Southern Arabia)?

Dan
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