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Personal logo enfant perdus Supporting Member of TMP16 Nov 2014 10:04 a.m. PST

Amazon alerted me to this today
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I'm intrigued. As the blurb says, there is precious little about the war in English.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP16 Nov 2014 11:41 a.m. PST

That does look interesting.

Inkpaduta16 Nov 2014 12:40 p.m. PST

I will be getting this one

Prince Alberts Revenge16 Nov 2014 4:04 p.m. PST

I've been waiting on this one for a while:
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Its release has been delayed multiple times. Can't wait for my copy to be delivered.

Russell12012017 Nov 2014 6:47 p.m. PST

Yes, I was the Turks in a 1904 naval game, and discovered this war in doing period research trying to figure out what they still controlled in 1904.

Schlesien24 Nov 2014 8:56 p.m. PST

I am looking forward to this book.

I referenced the book "The history of the Italian-Turkish War, September 29, 1911, to October 18, 1912", by William Beehler, when I wrote an article about the war for our club newsletter.

Here is the link to the article:
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cplcampisi14 Jan 2015 8:31 p.m. PST

I finally got my copy of this book and have started reading it. While I haven't finished I thought I would give my first impressions:

This book is in desperate need of an editor! Typos are more common than usual: Giolitti becomes Gioletti for a little while, instead of the plural "Ottomans" they often write the possessive "Ottoman's", etc.

Chapter 4 is titled "Adriatic Veto" -- and that's how it's spelled on the title page, but in the header on each page in the chapter it's misspelled "Adriatci Veto". Chapter 5 is title "The Italian's Land" but I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be "The Italians Land"!

Ok, with that rant out of the way -- I'm enjoying the book. The information is detailed, and Stephenson has been very good about providing the background for the war, and putting it in terms of the wider context of European relations, and fears of potential Balkan conflict leading to a general European war. He admits up front that he had more Italian sources than Turkish ones, so that may bias his account, but so far I don't see much in the way of bias, and Stephenson seems to be sensitive to point out when sources might be biased.

Sometimes the author uses lots of quotes in succession, which can break up the flow of the narrative, but isn't that big of a deal. When giving place names he usually supplies the alternative names/spellings used. When detailing ships involved in naval actions, he always provides the class, which should be useful to wargamers. Maps, and pictures are pretty good (if a bit small), including some of photos of Turkish forces which I rarely see.

So far I would recommend the book, but if typos, etc., really annoy you, you might want to wait (hope) for a second edition.

Thank you enfant perdus for pointing this book out!

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