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10thMountain25 Jun 2014 4:26 a.m. PST

Hello,
Can anyone provide info pertaining to 25-28mm figures and uniform sources for the Italian invasion of Libya in 1911?
Thank you

Rudysnelson25 Jun 2014 4:52 a.m. PST

I would think that Boxer Rebellion would be OK for the Italian since it was less than a decade earlier.

Ottomans would wearing the same uniform as the Balkan's War which takes place a year later.

magister equitum25 Jun 2014 6:11 a.m. PST

The italians had the new grey-green uniform introduced in 1909 but with sun helmet.

picture

For the ottoman regulars any type in fez is ok,for the lybians you must look at north africa ranges

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP25 Jun 2014 6:38 a.m. PST

Based on that photo, I think you might be able to use Germans in Sun helmets for Italians. Pulp, Old Glory and I think Copplestone all make them.

Prince Alberts Revenge25 Jun 2014 6:43 a.m. PST

I believe TMP member Nashville provided a good link in a previous posting: ottoman-uniforms.com

Not sure how relevant these would be since I don't know how many Ottoman regulars were involved in fighting. Also, this book looks promising (I ordered it and its on the way): link

magister equitum25 Jun 2014 9:57 a.m. PST

There were only a little more than 14000 scattered ottoman regulars including infantry, police and coastal artillery, and no reinforcements were possible. Most of the fighting was done by natives trained and led by regular officers and with the odd regular battalion in support. The battles were mostly italian landing and assault on the costal cities, ottoman loose siege of such cities and sometimes assaults, italian attacks against ottoman camps with a temporary enlargement of the bridgeheads, further italian landings along the coast to prevent supplies across the Tunisia or Egyptian borders. The war became a stalemate because the italians couldn't effectively occupy anything beside the coastal strip but the ottomans couldn't evict the italians. In order to force a decision the italians occupied some Aegean islands with a land battle on Rhodes and made naval attacks on some ports and the Dardanneles, then the Balkan wars started and the ottomans had to agree to peace.
Google image search turns up many photos:
link
and I found this page with uniform plates
guerraitaloturca.blogspot.it

cplcampisi29 Jun 2014 7:20 p.m. PST

The Italian army had re-equipped with the 1909 uniform for this war.

I've been unable to find appropriate miniatures. The uniform and equipment was mostly WW1, but with sun helmets, and no puttees (except for Alpini). Most equipment was the 1907 leather gear, in brown, but the older 1891 leather gear could still be found, and it was usually black. Boots were usually black, but could be brown. There's a lot of other little differences between WW1 and the Italo-Turkish war, but those are the major ones.

The Ottoman troops there still used the old blue uniform.

As magister equitum pointed out, this is a pretty good website:
link

The only problem is that they show the 1907 equipment as gray-green instead of brown. I think in the text, they state that the equipment was brown.

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