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Louie N20 Feb 2013 7:52 p.m. PST

I recall seeing a chart system that converted/replaced the Chit pulling damage system for the Dirtside II rules.

Does anyone know if that can be found on the web?

Thanks

Mako11 Inactive Member20 Feb 2013 8:18 p.m. PST

See here:

link

Another one in the message archives, when I inquired about it, is now a site for Domain Registrations, so doesn't work any longer.

Hope the one provided works for you.

emckinney20 Feb 2013 11:02 p.m. PST

If you go to archive.org and enter the URL of the dead site, you can explore through earlier versions of it.

Personal logo javelin98 Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2013 11:03 a.m. PST

I have a chit-pulling spreadsheet (Excel 2007) which I can send you. Drop me a line at javelin98 AT lycos DOT com.

The only problem with dicing instead of pulling is the "sampling with replacement" issue. If you had to pull five chits, for example, with the given counter sheets, you could only pull two Firer Systems Down chits, but if rolling dice, you could potentially roll five of them. The spreadsheet I built utilizes a "sampling without replacement" technique that ensures that wouldn't happen.

Here's a table version of the chit spread. Now you just need a 17-sided die and a 7-sided die and you'll be all set!


Red 0 Red 0 Red 0 Red 0 Red 0 Red 1 Red 1
Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1
Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1
Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 2 Red 2 Red 2
Red 2 Red 2 Red 2 Red 2 Red 2 Red 2 Red 2
Red 2 Red 2 Red 2 Red 2 Red 2 Red 3 Red 3
Red 3 Red 3 Red 3 Red 3 Red 3 Red 3 Red 3
Red 3 Yel 0 Yel 0 Yel 0 Yel 1 Yel 1 Yel 1
Yel 1 Yel 1 Yel 1 Yel 1 Yel 1 Yel 1 Yel 1
Yel 2 Yel 2 Yel 2 Yel 2 Yel 2 Yel 2 Yel 2
Yel 3 Yel 3 Yel 3 Yel 3 Yel 3 Grn 0 Grn 0
Grn 0 Grn 1 Grn 1 Grn 1 Grn 1 Grn 1 Grn 1
Grn 1 Grn 1 Grn 1 Grn 1 Grn 2 Grn 2 Grn 2
Grn 2 Grn 2 Grn 2 Grn 2 Grn 3 Grn 3 Grn 3
Grn 3 Grn 3 BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM
MOB MOB MOB MOB MOB MOB MOB
FSD FSD TSD TSD TSD TSD TSD

comstarhpg21 Feb 2013 4:10 p.m. PST

I used a dice system see my post at the end :)

TMP link

Cheers Matt

Louie N21 Feb 2013 8:31 p.m. PST

Javelin,

I have your spreadsheet. I found it years ago. I think it is a very helpful accessory to the game. Thank you for making that and your vehicle design spreadsheet.

I brought up the dice system because some players would always prefer a dice roll to a chit pull.

Personal logo javelin98 Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2013 11:53 p.m. PST

Nice, Matt! Very inspired!

Here's a thought for a tabular approach. It uses a d20 and d6 rolled concurrently:


d6

[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]
[1] Red 0 Red 0 Red 0 Red 0 Red 0 Red 1
[2] Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1
[3] Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1
[4] Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1
[5] Red 1 Red 2 Red 2 Red 2 Red 2 Red 2
[6] Red 2 Red 2 Red 2 Red 2 Red 2 Red 2
[7] Red 2 Red 2 Red 2 Red 2 Red 3 Red 3
[8] Red 3 Red 3 Red 3 Red 3 Red 3 Red 3
d20 [9] Red 3 Red 3 Yel 0 Yel 0 Yel 0 Yel 1
[10] Yel 1 Yel 1 Yel 1 Yel 1 Yel 1 Yel 1
[11] Yel 1 Yel 1 Yel 1 Yel 2 Yel 2 Yel 2
[12] Yel 2 Yel 2 Yel 2 Yel 2 Yel 3 Yel 3
[13] Yel 3 Yel 3 Yel 3 Grn 0 Grn 0 Grn 0
[14] Grn 1 Grn 1 Grn 1 Grn 1 Grn 1 Grn 1
[15] Grn 1 Grn 1 Grn 1 Grn 1 Grn 2 Grn 2
[16] Grn 2 Grn 2 Grn 2 Grn 2 Grn 2 Grn 3
[17] Grn 3 Grn 3 Grn 3 Grn 3 BOOM BOOM
[18] BOOM BOOM BOOM MOB MOB MOB
[19] MOB MOB MOB MOB FSD FSD
[20] TSD TSD TSD TSD TSD (Re-Roll)

earthad Inactive Member22 Feb 2013 2:57 a.m. PST

Cool!

Personal logo javelin98 Supporting Member of TMP22 Feb 2013 8:14 a.m. PST

Here's another tabular approach using a d10 and d12:


d10
[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]
[1] Red 0 Red 0 Red 0 Red 0 Red 0 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1
[2] Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1
[3] Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 1 Red 2 Red 2 Red 2 Red 2 Red 2
[4] Red 2 Red 2 Red 2 Red 2 Red 2 Red 2 Red 2 Red 2 Red 2 Red 2
[5] Red 3 Red 3 Red 3 Red 3 Red 3 Red 3 Red 3 Red 3 Red 3 Red 3
d12 [6] Yel 0 Yel 0 Yel 0 Yel 1 Yel 1 Yel 1 Yel 1 Yel 1 Yel 1 Yel 1
[7] Yel 1 Yel 1 Yel 1 Yel 2 Yel 2 Yel 2 Yel 2 Yel 2 Yel 2 Yel 2
[8] Yel 3 Yel 3 Yel 3 Yel 3 Yel 3 Grn 0 Grn 0 Grn 0 Grn 1 Grn 1
[9] Grn 1 Grn 1 Grn 1 Grn 1 Grn 1 Grn 1 Grn 1 Grn 1 Grn 2 Grn 2
[10] Grn 2 Grn 2 Grn 2 Grn 2 Grn 2 Grn 3 Grn 3 Grn 3 Grn 3 Grn 3
[11] BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM MOB MOB MOB MOB MOB
[12] MOB MOB FSD FSD TSD TSD TSD TSD TSD (Re-Roll)

I was thinking about the "sampling with replacement" error. One way to solve that would be to print this chart out on a sheet of paper, suitably spaced out. Then, after each roll of the dice, cover that value with a chit or a penny. So if you have to pull four chits, you roll the dice pair four times and cover up each result with a marker. If you roll one that you've already rolled, you just roll it again.

Personal logo javelin98 Supporting Member of TMP22 Feb 2013 12:33 p.m. PST

Here are those two tables in graphic format. Bear in mind that TMP automatically compresses them, so if you save them and open them from your hard drive, they'll be considerably larger!

picture

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Wellspring Inactive Member22 Feb 2013 8:34 p.m. PST

Not totally on-topic, but I'd love to see DSII damage chits released by Litko as plastics.

Personal logo javelin98 Supporting Member of TMP22 Feb 2013 10:13 p.m. PST

They would do them as a special order for you. A number of folks bought custom Space Hulk blips and counters when the 3rd Ed. came out.

TonicNH09 Mar 2013 3:52 p.m. PST

Just found this cached version of an old dice based damage system

link

Mako11 Inactive Member05 May 2013 9:22 a.m. PST

Sadly, I get a 404 error when trying the cached link.

spiff40k Inactive Member21 May 2013 9:26 a.m. PST

Wellspring, you can use Litko's custom tokens for this. I just recieved a set I special ordered using their custion tokens. They look really good but it's a little pricey for a whole set.

Hayden22 May 2013 6:23 a.m. PST

What exactly mean pricey?:D

Rothgar Inactive Member24 May 2013 10:27 a.m. PST

You could also use some 20mm mdf bases and stickers to make a set of chits as well.

Lfseeney01 Aug 2013 12:36 p.m. PST

How about just a deck of cards?

If you do not like Tokens, also if you want to computerize it many card drawing programs out now could load the chits in to a deck of cards that way as well.

Lee

TonicNH07 Mar 2015 9:30 a.m. PST

OK its a bit late but found another link to those tables mentioned in my earlier post….

link

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