"Why not a Dark Ages board?" Topic

Dark ages sis integrated into ancients. Viking gaming is very popular and I think a separate board would be a good idea.
Ancients covers so much ground it gets buried in there.

I brought this up in 2007!

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I'll support it!

Yes, I like the idea as well.

The aftermath of the fall of the western Roman Empire is an immensely popular period and set of conflicts. The degree of interest certainly merits a separate board.

Defining it would be a little tricky or arbitrary.

Splintered Light's historicals run from sub-Roman "Arthurian" Britain up to 1066, including Irish and Picts and early Saxons, with later Saxons on the way, and Normans and Vikings. We've discussed plans to add some further late Roman and early Frankish figures, on the early end, and to do Carolingians and some of their enemies also.

None of that is quite medieval, except maybe Carolingian and Norman depending on how you define it. But I think the old WRG books were smart in dividing ancient from medieval by a "shieldwall" or Dark Ages period.

Agreed.

Maybe with the release of more rules and figures this time it might be a go!

Yes.

yes

Yep, its a good idea

Me too!

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Perhaps because it has always been lumped in with ancients?
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Russ Dunaway

Count me in as well!

HostileContact

Thank you folks. It really is a separate period defined by a lot of things. I dont even see any ambiguity in defining it.

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Agreed it is deserving of its own board. Another WW2 rule set, Command Decision, was recently granted its own board and it is high time the Dark Ages were separated from ancients.

It is all just Ancients to me. So no thanks.

Needs to be separate!

what date range ?

sorry but against this.

when does dark ages start… 400 ad? 500ad, after Rome falls? after Byzantium falls.

dark ages is a misnomer, and I would be happy with an early medieval board with a proper time delineation. so between 450 and 1050 (as an example)

I am doing Greek dark ages army which is 1000 bc? and some empires did not experience a dark age (?) so let's not create an unneeded differentiation.

I would be happier if we split up ancients as pre 700 bc and post 100 ad and then had a 450+ early medieval.

but lumping together works well enough for me for now.

what next a board for world war two realistic rules? for eastern front tanks, for T34 variants?

What is this talk about ancients?

Ancient period ends around 500 AD or so, from then on the next thousand years or so form the medieval period.

I don't play that era, but why not?
I like the idea.

Current thinking is there is no Dark Ages, just early Medieval.

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James Mattes

A Dark Ages board would be most welcome.

Martin

If you vote for a french revolution board, I will vote for a dark age one

Why not?

I always support new board ideas, as I like anything that adds to the general confusion.

In this particular case I would probably actually use it, as I like my vikings. We could even call it the "Vikings And Related" board to avoid confusion…

yes

There should be a Dark Ages board to clear up the confusion between whether it belongs to the ancient or medieval period! (I've always thought of it as early medieval and while I understand that many historians say it really wasn't that dark Dark Ages sounds more evocative.)

There should be a Dark Ages board to clear up the confusion between whether it belongs to the ancient or medieval period!

There is no confusion. If you look at the left menu on this TMP page:

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Ancients is defined as being up to 500 AD, and medieval is defined as starting from 500 AD. Clear, simple and easy to remember.

It seems we either take the academic look and leave it as it is or we take the ppular approach and create a dark ages board which would make it much easier for those of those without opinions of the existence of the dark ages to easier enjoy finding articles about Vikings and whatever else you game during this period popularly known as the dark ages. Consider we are not in a college and that all mini manufacturer have a dark ages section. Whether it exists or not it is a standard gaming delineation and this is a gaming board not a college.

Is it possible it would get overSHADOWED?

There never was a Dark Ages (19th century invention) so there is no need for an independent board… unless it went along with the Victorian science fiction I suppose.