"New 28mm Franco-Prussian War greens" Topic

So what's the story here?

Agincourt, huh? What are you talking about? Are you joking or what? I hope so.

And mashrewba, I hope the dream is not over. It just may take a bit longer…

I've been away from this board for awhile as I've gotten really busy with my teaching this semester (I teach computer programming at a technical college here in Wisconsin, USA). This semester has been crazy for me as I've had to redesign the content of several courses among many other things so short story is not much time to keep working on the line of figures the past couple of months.

An update on the figures -

Several are in progress and I'll have to get new pics of them out on my blog soon. I'll repost when I do that. I have gotten a bit of interest via the blog site as well so it is good to know there are people around the world interested in these. I am also VERY interested in doing more work in the 54/60mm scale down the road.

Also, I do have a line on a potential manufacturer for these (remember I said "potential"). I am hoping we can come to an agreement as far as the manufacturer's decision to want to do these and my ability to raise the cash to get it going. I'll let you know when I know more, but it may be a little while yet…

I do appreciate all of your suggestions so far. Please keep giving any more you can think of.

I am really not sure what Agincourt meant by "Jon Cooly" (its Cooley) being around for such a long time and not needing advice on bag size, etc…, but I do solicit this kind of advice because I have never had my own line of miniatures produced before. I did work on the Old Glory FPW 15's with my brother Perris, but 19th Century Miniatures did the production stuff for those.
Anyway, I ramble on…

Look forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards,
Jon Cooley

Jon,

Thanks for the update. Let's hope that things can come together for these figures of yours.

Cooley,huh? What are you talking about? Are you serious about getting these greens into production or what? i hope so.

Mike Martin quote

"These look absolutely fantastic! I remember seeing some of these greens a number of years ago"

J Cooley quote

"I teach computer programming at a technical college here in Wisconsin, USA). This semester has been crazy for me as I've had to redesign the content of several courses "

So you can sculpt greens, teach complicated courses and have been around for years …..how many figures in a bag lmao ..

Bump self harm threads much?

I suggest a clear plastic bag 3inches by 2inches you can then place either 1 or up to maybe 8 figures in said bag :)

Ouch I just cut myself again !

Here's an idea ask 19th Century Miniatures for advice………

This thread is amusing thanks Jon :)

Kind regards
Agincourt

I'm glad you are amused Agincourt.

Self harm threads? I hope you know what you are talking about because I sure don't. I started on the first figs in this range several years ago, then didn't work on them for some time as 19th Century Miniatures wasn't interested in them. Recently, I began to work on them again just because of my interest in the period. Yes, the work goes slow because I need to put a lot of time into my real job. Maybe you don't know how that is, and maybe you do. I really don't care if you do/don't by the way.

Is there anything in that last paragraph you don't understand. I know it might be hard for you, but come on, please try. At least I've hopefully amused you.

Does anyone else here know much about Agincourt? Is this half-baked all the time or is this just his brand of humor? Maybe I am missing something here???

Kind regards,
Jon Cooley

Jon,

Good question. I've wondered the same thing. I prefer to focus on the ultimate goal here – getting your figures produced.

Bump….

Any updates for us???

OOe yes -how's it going?
I have long had two wargaming dreams and the 28mm Indochina French just came true so that leaves this one!!

Hi all,

A quick update…

I think I have found someone to produce these figures and I will be sending a batch of the first figures to him in the near future once we work out cost, etc…

We are in process of getting some parts produced (rifles, etc…) to assist in getting future figures out quicker as well.

I will post as soon as I know more details about how the figures will be packaged and when the first ones will be available.

I also plan to post new figure shots soon at my blog (new website is also in the works) at cooleyminiatures.wordpress.com

I will let you know when those are ready. I have several new batches of French line infantry, officers-drummer-bugler, and the first Chasseur a'Pied, Bavarian, and Prussian line Jaegers in process at the moment.

My school year will be finishing soon so that will free up some more time to work on these.

I have been working a lot on heads lately (28mm and 54mm) which has been really fun. These will add more variety.

Thanks again for your interest!

Kind regards,
Jon Cooley

Nice one…these look really good and are tempting me to make them a big project.

Awesome work!

I think FPW 28mm fans could be entering a Golden Age…

Jon,

I think you might need to see if things can be sped up a bit. In another 19th century thread I see someone else is starting to release 28mm FPW figures.

I think your figures look to be superior but if you don't get them out soon it may not matter to many.

Just a thought.

No you don't -it's good stuff -we'll wait…

Any updates??

Jon,

Looking forward to see the figures produced. I have a great interest in the FPW.

@18th Century Guy
Who is starting to release 28mm FPW figures?

This guy
heroesofthedarkage.com
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TMP link

I just found these from Eureka(what a waste of metal!!) but actually you could do head swaps and they'd be fine!!

Any news from this range ?

Hi all,

I just wanted to provide an update on my upcoming range of Franco-Prussian War 28's (and 54's evenually).

I am currently waiting to get back more French and Prussian rifles (first run with my new producer) so I can start sending my figures to the moldmaker/caster for production. It is going a bit slowly with them right now as they are just starting their business. Many of you may remember Jason formerly with 19th Century Minis.

I am also figuring out the costs of getting these produced as I don't have lots of cash lying around :-).

I have around 4-8 poses each of advancing, skirmishing, and firing (loading and firing poses) nearly ready for production as well as most of the command (officers, bugler, drummer, and standard bearer) for both French and Prussian line infantry.

I also have a Prussian artillery crew ready along with a start on French Chasseurs a'Pied, Prussian Jaegers, and Bavarian infantry.

So for now, it is just a wait on moldmaking/casting production to swing into gear.

I'll try to provide more timely updates and let you know when I get a website up for these. I'll also try to update my Wordpress site with more pictures of the new greens.

Just a side note. I was able to show some of my greens to Keith Rocco (American Civil War and Napoleonic War artist) and friends at the recent Historicon convention in July and they all were very encouraging about the figures. That definitely made my day!

Thanks to all for your interest.

Kind regards,
Jon Cooley

Good news -I'll hold off on the Eureka camel men for the moment!!

Jon,

Excellent news! We'll wait for your announcement and thanks for the update.

It would be great to be able to buy the rifles separately for conversions/scenery etc -lots of muskets out there but not these sort of rifles.
oh -Picklehaubes and French back packs as well -I do like a bit of ramage.

It would be great to be able to buy the rifles separately for conversions/scenery etc -lots of muskets out there but not these sort of rifles.

Hmm,

I never thought about providing rifles and/or equipment separately at the 28mm scale. What kind of interest would there be in that?

Also, for that matter, how do people feel about figures that need to have arms with rifles/swords added (glue arm with peg into a hole in the shoulder)? This may potentially allow for a few more dynamic poses. I know I don't enjoy doing a lot of assembly with figures, so it would just be for a pose here and there.

I enjoy converting and bespoke figures so anything that helps is welcome.

Jon,

On the question of putting figures together, I to do not like it that much but if it is only arms then that is fine with me. I wouldn't want this to end up being like building the 28mm Napoleonic plastics that are on the market. That would be too much work – IMHO.

18th Century,

I totally agree with that. Those multipart plastics can be beautiful once assembled, but I don't have the patience for that either…

I would only do separate arms if that is my only option for a few figures.

Thanks for the feedback!

Kind regards,
Jon

The original Helion 1866 range had separate arms for the running at trail Prussians which provided some variation and I suppose it can help with positions that are difficult to cast.
There seems to be a lot of variation in the greens shown already -I can't imagine people wanting much more than that.
I'm going to give another shout out for firing lines going to ground!!!

mashrewba,

What exactly do you mean with firing lines going to ground? What kind of poses would achieve what you are looking for?

Kind regards,
Jon

Crouching and kneeling -maybe even lying down to escape the hideous hail of lead!!

Ok, I see what you meant mashrewba. Would others be interested in any poses like this?

I have always had in the back of my mind the thought to do more poses (just because I want them) that would be unique, perhaps hard to cast, or not in high demand, that I may not have placed in production. These would be to round out what I want since I have a passion for this period. I've even thought of doing vignette-type poses with officer groupings, etc…

I think some poses from the pics you posted (thanks mashrewba!) such as the bugler lying down, wounded, and crouching poses would fit this bill. I guess I would just make them, post some pics of the greens and see how much demand there would be for them.

I really like discussing ideas like this if you wish to discuss more or bring up new thoughts…

Kind regards,
Jon

I'm very interested in the FPW and have it listed as a possible future range. I would love to make small vignettes and build my units with lots of active poses to give them that felling of the contemporary paintings.

I love the vignette thing!!!
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Apologies for putting these on again…any excuse :)

What kind of vignettes would be interesting for the FPW?

Some ideas: staff officer groupings, small skirmisher groupings, scouts, climbing a hill like the Rotherberg at Spicheren, defending a slit trench grouping, a last stand grouping, the Cemetery at St Privat, …

Others?

Wow, mashrewba!

Cool pics. I love the groupings of figures. Great paint job on the figures as well. I had not seen these before. Very nice!

Kind regards,
Jon

Thanks Jon -you can see why I'm so excited about your figs going into production. The above vignettes would be great -mind you looking at your greens there is a lot of variety already.
One thought did occur – the Prussian gun crews were always in the front line so a gun crew under fire would be great as opposed to standing around in a Napoleonic style.
More firing lines -these crews are maybe too under fire!!!!

I seem to be posting everything twice these days -I need to get a grip.

Take a look at these 6mm vignettes:
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Imagine in 28mm…

What kind of vignettes would be interesting for the FPW?

Me I like a last stand grouping, the Cemetery at St Privat, The Guard Horse Artillery emerging from the Bois de Saulnay (by Marchetti).

Stuff like that. :-)

Start new thread gents?

Tally Ho!

Man those look awesome!! This is a period that i just recently became interested in, your range of figures is one that i would be personally very interested in as none of the current ranges have wowed me at all into buying figures.

keep up the good work and good luck, i eagerly watch on

Pat

Did this great looking range ever go into production?

Any update on this??

Me too, is there an update available??

The dream is over (sound of sobbing) reprise

Just another TMP member looking to see if anyone has heard anything more from Jon Cooley. I'd love to see some more additions to the 15mm sculpts he did for 19th Century Minis as well as this excellent range.

bumping this up to the top of the list. Hoping to get an update on these figures.

Footsore Miniatures looks like the best hope for FPW now. Check out their Facebook page and their website.

GDrover,

Unfortunately I think you are correct. I've seen the Footsore page and as with everything I'll have to wait and see how well the range is filled out. Too many times I've purchased figures only to see the company spread themselves thin with other ranges and never complete them. Then I'm left holding the bag.

As a note there is another company that is starting 28mm FPW figures – Forgotten and Glorious Company of Art (FB MiniZ)
forgottenglorious.blogspot.fr

Once a company has French and Prussian line infantry you're good to go. My French army does not even have a Zouave unit -how's that for restraint!!!
I've got some of the Footsore figs and they are very good -I'm going to paint them up as Marines (no, not the blokes in the sailor hats-actual Marines…:))
Looking at the quality of the existing FBMinz stuff -this is very very exciting indeed.