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Personal logo Chortle Sponsoring Member of TMP Fezian04 Mar 2012 5:58 a.m. PST

I'm sorry if you detest basing discussions. Please hit 'back' your browser now if you do!

Blue Moon 15mm Napoleonic infantry have landed at Reinforcements by Post, Bangladesh. I've bought the figures in proportion to make 24 man units.

I'm painting up one battalion for each of the unit types:

Austrian line
Austrian Grenadiers
British line (oops, I forgot to consider lights – will do that later)
British Highlanders
French 1809
French 1809 in campaign dress
French 1809 in great coats
Prussian line
Russian line
Russian grenadiers

Just to display these units I'll be basing them. It looks a hell of a lot better than unbased figures, which are a job to stand up anyway. So, how to base them?

The flank/light/grenadier companies are in 4s. I think that six bases, each of 4 figures 2x2, will work for Lasalle and BP. Perhaps people can correct me if I'm wrong, or if this will look crap. I think 20mm square bases will work for this. So the frontage would be 120mm.

Why am I not basing any old way? Because an existing basing convention may be used because people have found it looks good, save me rebasing later (because someone may want them based like this), and also because I'm obsessive. Simple as that, really.

I asked about BP and Lasalle basing here

TMP link

But I didn't have a definite proposition, or the figures in front of me, at that time.

Cheers,

Neil
reinforcementsbypost.com

Attila the Stockbroker Inactive Member04 Mar 2012 6:02 a.m. PST

These are the suggested Lasalle basing schemes from the rules book.

PDF link

Personal logo Chortle Sponsoring Member of TMP Fezian04 Mar 2012 6:05 a.m. PST

Thank you Attila. BTW, are you still into stocks?

Attila the Stockbroker Inactive Member04 Mar 2012 6:12 a.m. PST

They're not doing too well lately…

Personal logo Chortle Sponsoring Member of TMP Fezian04 Mar 2012 6:28 a.m. PST

Off topic – avert your eyes if that upsets you:

What do you make of this? Central Bank of Israel to start buying stocks

link

scomac04 Mar 2012 6:48 a.m. PST

The old Napoleon's Battles basing is fairly standard for Napoleonics. Infantry go four per base in two ranks. The bases are 3/4" wide (20mm) by 1" deep (25mm).

ancientsgamer Supporting Member of TMP04 Mar 2012 6:50 a.m. PST

If there are U.S. government guarantees, then I have a problem with this and I CAN assure you this will become a huge election issue. Sorry, but I don't believe there are government guarantees on stocks in any way. Not sure where the article gets THIS information. I would be shocked if this were true!

Personally, investing in choice stocks in not a bad idea for a foreign country. Buying dollars themselves these days is NOT a wise investment. On the other hand, I think Apple's stock prices are a bit overblown. The I-phone is getting outsold 8 to 1 in the marketplace these days. The I-Pad is holding its own still but Android is making inroads here as well as the newest generation E-readers. Apple has to come up with the next BIG idea soon and create another market. Competition is catching up and in some cases exceeding Apple in features.

Personal logo Chortle Sponsoring Member of TMP Fezian04 Mar 2012 7:15 a.m. PST

Please excuse me for going OT. I can now see this is an inflammatory issue.

Personal logo Chortle Sponsoring Member of TMP Fezian04 Mar 2012 7:16 a.m. PST

scomac – deeper because the figures themselves are deeper?

BarmyBob Inactive Member04 Mar 2012 7:50 a.m. PST

A better question for Attila the Stockbroker is are you still doing poetry? I've some old 7"s of yours laying about and some of you poetry on some of the early Oi! compilations =)

Personal logo Chortle Sponsoring Member of TMP Fezian04 Mar 2012 8:04 a.m. PST

If he is that Attila the Stockbroker, I saw him perform at Sussex University in 1988. Can't remember much of that night.

Dan Beattie Supporting Member of TMP04 Mar 2012 9:36 a.m. PST

Those Huns are breaking more than stocks: statues, fences, etc.

Clay the Elitist Inactive Member04 Mar 2012 9:58 a.m. PST

"The old Napoleon's Battles basing is fairly standard for Napoleonics."

Which isn't true, and one of the chief reasons NB sucked so bad for the hobby. It created a basing requirement that prevented players from playing games that weren't based like that.

As for Lasalle, it's one of the current generation of "base it how you want" rules that doesn't really help any of us. The first thing I look at in a new set of Napoleonics rules is the basing. If it doesn't work with mine, then I don't bother. But when people show up with different basing schemes it just causes confusion, so we quit playing Lasalle.

MajorB04 Mar 2012 11:21 a.m. PST

Basing is pretty unimportant in BP. What really matters is unit frontage.

trailape Supporting Member of TMP06 Mar 2012 5:09 p.m. PST

I work on a 40mm frontage for ALL troop types.
Infanrty:
I have 8 figs in two ranks of 4 on a 30mm deep base.
Cavalry:
2 (light) or 3 (Dragoons or heavier) figures on a 30mm deep base
ARTILLERY:
1 Gun and 3-4 gunners on a 40mm deep base.

That's what I use for LASALLE.
It works for DBN and NAW and I hope it will work for FOG-N.
It looks good.
Cheers

Lion in the Stars Supporting Member of TMP06 Mar 2012 5:44 p.m. PST

And I went … well, a bit nuts, using Flames of War medium bases, 10 infantrymen per base. 50mm base width, for those keeping track at home. It also lets me put guns on a FoW Large base (60mm deep).

Brett NZ Inactive Member06 Mar 2012 8:21 p.m. PST

Trailape

Your basing is the same as FoGN, the only difference being that heavy (12lber) guns are on 40mmx40mm, lighter pieces are 30mm deep 'if the models fit'.

Also, most LC are 3 figures to a base however in FoGN it makes no difference how many figures you glue on a base as shooting/combat is by unit, and there is no casualty removal (although a base is removed from routed infantry or spent cavalry units)

Cheers
Brett

Maxshadow Supporting Member of TMP06 Mar 2012 8:35 p.m. PST

One of BP's better ideas was to be designed so that armies with different basing could play each other. Which means it is not important what style you use with in the normal variances. :o)

trailape Supporting Member of TMP06 Mar 2012 8:45 p.m. PST

Thanks for the info Brett.

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