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forwardmarchstudios04 Feb 2012 11:49 p.m. PST

Well, he was born in the 18th century anyways. I found this, or noticed it rather, while my girlfriend was reading the Daily Mail today. Apparently one of Thomas Edisons proteges took recoridng equipment to Paris in the 1880s and got both Bismarck and Moltke on wax cylinders. Moltke was born in 1800, making this the only recording of a persons voice who was born in the 18th century that we have. Moltke was the Prussian chief of staff for 30 years and was instrumental to a lot of changes in the German staff system, plus he won the Franco-Prussian war. Out of period I know. However, he was alive and learning German during the Napoleonic period, and I think its very interesting to actually hear the language as it was spoken then. Actually I find the recordings of both, but especially Moltke to be rather unsettling, and not just for the rythmic imperfections in the recording. I posted this on the 19th Century board earlier, but then I realized that I should have cross-posted it as it is probably of interest on here too….

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MajorB05 Feb 2012 5:47 a.m. PST
Edwulf05 Feb 2012 9:27 a.m. PST

Isn't 1800 part of the 19th century?

spontoon05 Feb 2012 9:34 a.m. PST

No, 1801 is the first year of the 19th. century. There was no year zero!

MajorB05 Feb 2012 10:46 a.m. PST

Isn't 1800 year zero of the 19th century?

IIRC, 2000 was regarded as the first year of the 21st century. Or did we celebrate the Millenium on the wrong date?

forwardmarchstudios05 Feb 2012 11:10 a.m. PST

Margard- I know, I should have crossposted it. I am a bad and lazy and stupid TMPer.

Druzhina05 Feb 2012 5:18 p.m. PST

Isn't 1800 year zero of the 19th century?

IIRC, 2000 was regarded as the first year of the 21st century. Or did we celebrate the Millenium on the wrong date?

Yes, 2001 was the 1st year of the 3rd millenium.

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Arteis05 Feb 2012 6:58 p.m. PST

IIRC, 2000 was regarded as the first year of the 21st century. Or did we celebrate the Millenium on the wrong date?

Yes, we did celebrate it on the wrong date. But celebrating in the year 2000 just seemed so much more appropriate than doing so on the real date in 2001.

I suspect many people may also have celebrated 1800 as the first year of the 19th century, just because it felt more right to do so then than in 1801.

Sundance06 Feb 2012 9:05 a.m. PST

This argument about dating millenia has gone around before. Think of it like this – we count from 1 to 10, not 0 to 9. Thus, 1-1000 is the first millenium, 1001 to 2000 is the second millenium, and the third millenium starts in 2001. Same with centuries – 1701 to 1800 is a century, with the next century beginning in 1801.

Arteis06 Feb 2012 10:06 p.m. PST

Correct, Sundance, totally correct – but it still feels wrong! And that's why more people celebrated in 2000 than 2001.

wingleader35609 Feb 2012 6:18 p.m. PST

isn't the 01 year just the first whole interger that can be counted in a unit of years? Jan 1st 2000 is just 1/365 on the way to a whole year… you don't count the 56 mins from midnight till 1am as part of the previous day because they don't fit the def of the hour system.

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