"10mm ACW - GHQ, Starfort, Old Glory, AIM comp photo" Topic

Hi,

In this thread:
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I said would post an update when I received my Old Glory figures. I've posted a comparison photo below, which isn't perfect, but I think you can get the gist. The AIM figures are on the left (primed), the OG are in the middle, and then a base with a single Starfort and two GHQ figures.

As you can see, the OG figures seem very large. They are in fact a bit smaller, and much slimmer, than the AIM figures, but the thick strip makes them seem taller. They are a bit larger than the Starfort figure, and even more so compared to the slim GHQ figures.

The OG pack comes with 3 different strip types, the figures of which are all in cap except for singles in hat on two of the strips. The strips are uniformly 25mm (1") in length, and despite the fact that some of the figures are connected here and there at the sleeve and hip they can be separated – but not easily, given the thickness of the strip itself. All in all I find myself thinking that they would have been much more useful if they were singles, or better yet if the strip was the thickness of a normal base.

Hope that helps!

Cheers,

Christopher

and that picture sums up, for me, why i won't do acw in 10mm. i do like the ghq stuff, but its a "dead" line, and the pose # is too little. i'll go with 15mm.

Amazing how subjective these things can be. I picked OG for their size, variations, and compatibility with some other useful lines, but the strip casting was a HUGE plus to me. They're just the size for F&F and paint up quickly.

For me, the Old Glory 10mm strips are ideal. Easy to paint, base, and look very good en masse. With the five-figure strips, no fiddling with basing and painting individual figures. I have a large collection of Old Glory 10mm ACW figures and wouldn't want to tackle the same number of single figures.

@john lacour- Yes, we know, that's almost exactly what you said in the other thread … You honestly don't get that it's about the benefits of the scale as a whole versus 15's, do you?

@darth and Jon – Yep, it's true that the OG ACW strips are dead on for F&F basing, which I should have mentioned. I somewhat selfishly meant "useful for me" with my odd 15mm frontage basing scheme. ;) Still, I don't see why the strips couldn't have been thinner – it looks like they sculpted the figures on "normal" bases and then stuck them on the thicker strip. However, as you say, they do have great variety and are tied with Pendraken for lowest price per figure (at least in Euro cents).

Thanks Christopher for the picture.

GHQ is not a dead line they have steadily added figures over the past two years. These included packs of: US Mounted Cavalry – Charging; CS Mounted Cavalry – Charging; Iron Brigade firing, and skirmishers packs; Advancing Infantry in Frock Coats & Forage Caps and Frock Coat & Slouch Cap packs; and Advancing Infantry in Great Coats & Forage Caps (USA).

This encouraged me to use GHQ and Starfort (Langton) for my ACW. By mixing packs I am not having any difficulty in representing any unit that I've needed.

It should noted that these two lines are both N scale 160th which is nominally 10mm. This is good since there is a great deal of N scale railroad stuff available and I also model the USMRR circa 1863 in N scale.

well, my opinion is just as valid as anyones. i don't play f&f, i play johnny reb, so having figures in strips does'nt work for me or the game i play. and if you think this line up shows anything good about 10mm, then i'd suggest you get glasses…

Were I to ever go to a 10mm collection, I would definitely be using the Old Glory minis. I very much like that strip they use, and for the money it's great value.

However, I'm too invested in 25/28mm to add another scale at this time.

Still, I don't see why the strips couldn't have been thinner – it looks like they sculpted the figures on "normal" bases and then stuck them on the thicker strip.

I wondered that as well. Either a minimal strip or a full-on F&F base (that's my selfishness!) might have been better. Maybe structurally they needed a thicker base?

Either way, I appreciate the comparison pic! Those are always helpful.

lacour wrote:

if you think this line up shows anything good about 10mm, then i'd suggest you get glasses…

I have glasses – thanks for your concern!

well, my opinion is just as valid as anyones.

Maybe not as valid as you think. ;)

GHQ is too small for me, but I would gladly use the rest in my armies.

-Bryan

well, my opinion is just as valid as anyones. i don't play f&f, i play johnny reb, so having figures in strips does'nt work for me or the game i play. and if you think this line up shows anything good about 10mm, then i'd suggest you get glasses…

This is the lineup I prefer.

This is a very good example of scale creep is it not?

I started out with 10mm ACW in the late eighties with Scotia's, now produced by Baggage Train. The only figures that are compatible with them are GHQ and Magister Militum's (originally Chariot also known as Perrin I think), all true 10mm and just perfect for large armies.

None of this ‘new generation' 10mm stuff is compatible and is approaching true 15mm in some cases. Fortunately I completed my Shiloh project some time ago.

But I wouldn't consider anything above 10mm and the disparity here is no different from any other size. 15mm has become 18mm, 20mm became 25mm and then 28mm. I remember starting out back in the 1960s with 30mm.

The answer is to stick to a single manufacturer.

XV – you can add Starfort to your list – I have primarily GHQ (with a little Ten High even) and Starfort mixes fairly well. In the photo (which I should have chosen more carefully) the GHQ figure next to the Starfort figure is leaning pretty far forward, which might be misleading.

Love your stuff, btsherman. I've been following your project for awhile. :)

For what it.s worth, I have the OG ACW figs and like them, I have cut the strips into two pieces . one piece with 3 figs and the other 2 figs, I mounted these 3 abreast,2 ranks deep. I cut 1 fig from the 2 fig strip on enough strips to make 58 stands of 6 figs each.I think this was 3 sacks of infantry.

Cutting these guys was not as hard as I had thought it would be------- as I cut and mounted 58 stands of painted Union troops also.

I think this hobby can make it with differing opinions and acceptance of each of us as 'individuals'!

as valid as anyones. 10mm is as all over the place as all the other scales.

I've got a load of 10mm comparison photos on my site which might be helpful ?

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I love the Pendraken figures and they have added to the range.

M

Interesting post. I just returned to ACW gaming last spring after a long break and sellig off my large 15mm collection.

I decided to go with 10mm becuase that was what was avialbale locally. I picked up a bunch of painted super cheap at a CON flea market and then added GHQ and Perrin. Yes the sizes do vary a little, but works for me as I am playing Reg F&F and went with smaller bases 1" x 1/2"

I only have a couple regiments of the OG and opted to cut them down to 4 figs per base and mounted the extras to give more bases.

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