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abdul666lw06 Dec 2011 7:15 a.m. PST

Totally unsolicited…
The Sandra range link remains almost unknown, yet arouses interest any time it appears on a blog or is mentioned on a forum.
Making it generally available, having it on the Eureka site, would greatly increase its sales.

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But another limitation is the lack of *cavalry*: since the 'infantrygirls' are already in high boots, it would probably be not very difficult nor expensive to make mounted versions of them. Eureka already produce many fitting horses.
And yes, as dragoons, they could well have a drummer.

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To have *exactly* the same minis mounted and on foot is extremely convenient when using them as 'characters' in adventure games (at a time it was the norm for 'dungeon explorers' minis), or to dismount them during a skirmish game.
TMP link

foot soldier Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Dec 2011 8:06 a.m. PST

Hi,
The Sandra range is being reworked and will emerge bigger & better.
Cheers,
Rob
Eureka miniatures usa

Personal logo RavenscraftCybernetics Supporting Member of TMP06 Dec 2011 8:14 a.m. PST

and will emerge bigger & better

scale creep in full force no doubt.

skippy000106 Dec 2011 8:24 a.m. PST

I like them in high boots….only in high boots…..

abdul666lw06 Dec 2011 8:50 a.m. PST

The Sandra range is being reworked and will emerge

Hurrah!


bigger & better

They are cute as they are!

Bigger? the range or the minis? Remember, women are on the average more petite than men: don't impose on us Brigitte Nielsen / Sigourney Weaver sized trolls who would look right only side by side with Black Scorpion giants!

skaran06 Dec 2011 9:50 a.m. PST

Make them compatible with the new Saxons allowing for slightly smaller statures. I would definately buy them also need cavalry to mix in with the Saxon 7YW cavalry would be fantastic.

Redcurrant06 Dec 2011 9:52 a.m. PST

"don't impose on us Brigitte Nielsen / Sigourney Weaver sized trolls who would look right only side by side with Black Scorpion giants!"

Hey – nothing wrong with Sigourney Weaver!!

abdul666lw06 Dec 2011 10:22 a.m. PST

My favorite actress indeed thumbs up, but for cute, petite women in miniature,the Sarah (Michelle Gellar / Shahi) size is more… catch all

Personal logo Lluis of Minairons Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Dec 2011 12:51 p.m. PST

So bad no one ever thinks of downsizing them to 15mm! --sure, I'm the only one in the world wishing such miniatures… frown

abdul666lw06 Dec 2011 1:03 p.m. PST

Lluis, you do have Blue Moon, Khurasan… producing little jewels the 28 – 30mm aficionados are envying.

Elastolin offered all toys soldiers in 70mm AND 40mm, a manufacturer his SF vehicles in both 15mm and 25mm, Steel Crown Productions will duplicate the new 28mm ranges in 6mm.
Would it be so difficult and expensive to propose new minis in the two most popular sizes?

Btw I maintain that to have the same minis mounted and dismounted would be precious.

abdul666lw06 Dec 2011 3:10 p.m. PST

Relevant thread: TMP link
specially the last post 06 Dec 2011 1:31 p.m. PST

suggestions for a top-seller 18th C. winsome warrior, on foot and mounted

Riding a horse, I mean evil grin

Early morning writer07 Dec 2011 12:07 a.m. PST

Soldadets is not alone! In 15 mm, or even 18 mm, and I'd be glad to add one or a dozen to my collection!

Personal logo Lluis of Minairons Sponsoring Member of TMP07 Dec 2011 4:14 a.m. PST

Early morning writer,

I'd immediately build and use a 18 figures regiment of them --even an entire brigade!!

Wouldn't anyone volunteer at producing them?

Marc the plastics fan07 Dec 2011 5:20 a.m. PST

Looks fun.

John OFM comments awaited

Nic Robson Sponsoring Member of TMP07 Dec 2011 10:19 p.m. PST

Gentlemen,
I have added the range to the 100 Club, link
If we get enough interest I will have them produced earlier rather than later.
If you would like me to add them to the 300 Club please contact me at Eureka Miniatures.
Nic Eureka Miniatures

skaran08 Dec 2011 2:43 a.m. PST

They are now in the 100 club section but I did notice that the items codes all duplicate others already on the list. Hopefully this won't upset their ordering systems.

abdul666lw08 Dec 2011 3:49 p.m. PST

If the others are already at 99 I'd not mind and the value is reported on the Sandras I'd not mind evil grin

Nic Robson Sponsoring Member of TMP08 Dec 2011 6:34 p.m. PST

Apologies, once the system goes over 100, for some reason it doesn't display the last digit on the web site.
Rest assured that I will make sure nothing gets confused as to what has been ordered.
Nic Eureka Miniatures

Dr Mathias Fezian09 Dec 2011 3:39 p.m. PST

I received a parcel of these figures today, they're great! I like the size of them (they're perfect IMO) so I hope they don't scale creep.

I'm looking forward to painting them up as a precursor to my Hinterland Prussian Hussars.

Personal logo Lluis of Minairons Sponsoring Member of TMP17 Dec 2011 5:47 p.m. PST

Nic, I've just emailed you!

Personal logo Lluis of Minairons Sponsoring Member of TMP22 Dec 2011 2:37 a.m. PST

OK, done.

Nic of Eureka has kindly added to 300 Club the 15mm version of them. I'm ready to place an initial order of 100.

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abdul666lw22 Dec 2011 1:27 p.m. PST

In 28mm:
Female Imagination Infantry: link
Female Imagination Cavalry: link
Female Imagination Artillery: link

May I add that the original Sandras were rather… subdued and underdone? "Wargaming miniatures being intended, NOT to be scrutinized individually under a magnifying glass, but to be seen en masse from a distance, their most essential features have to be emphasized." evil grin


In the meantime I maintain that the 'current' Sandras infantrywomen are already quite good, and that, since they wear high boots, it would not be a drastic investment to issue riding versions -Eureka already produce appropriate horses.

Personal logo Lluis of Minairons Sponsoring Member of TMP22 Dec 2011 3:11 p.m. PST

I've felt curious enough about them to fill a small order on their 28mm version too. Just enough to build an Infantry Battalion and a Cavalry Squadron --just for musing.

Paint Pig22 Dec 2011 7:01 p.m. PST

I have a battalion worth of infantry and artillery crew and I think they are pretty good figures, well sized and good proportions. Animation both in posture and facially could be a little better but isn't lacking in comparison to contemporaries from other marques (they could all do better). All in all they are fine figures and if your in to the what if's or imagi-nations definitely worth taking a look at.

Painted sample piece Nic supplied earlier in the year.

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thanks for looking
dave

abdul666lw02 Feb 2012 9:11 a.m. PST

Sandras illustrated, in Hesse-Cassoulet service:

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Really, the range is in want of dragoons (merely riding versions of the infantry fusiliers)!

trailape Supporting Member of TMP02 Feb 2012 2:44 p.m. PST

I'd love to se Hussars riding sidesaddle. :o)

Come In Nighthawk24 Dec 2012 5:29 p.m. PST

From Nic himself recently:

The Sandras are getting closer to the top of the pile every day.

At the risk of putting words in Nic's mouth…

The Sandra range is being reworked and will emerge bigger & better.
As I see it, "bigger" means the "range" or number of figures w/in the "Sandra Range," NOT the SIZE of the figures in the range. "Better," as I understand it, means BOTH addressing existing shortfalls, the biggest being some sort of cavalry, as well as making some tactical additions/corrections to the line.

I am fairly certain that I understand Nic to mean in an email exchange w/ me that there are no immediate plans to re-work the so-far-limited-release infantry figures, however, that is intended, if there were enough interest as gauged by sales.

We will replace the old girls on foot, but the current ones will still be available for those that want them.

BTW, Nic readily admits that

the current figures haven't been officially released yet, as we never completed the range.
However, they DO cast and sell them to folks who ask via an email, which his very easy to do!! To assist those interested, I know they DO have codes, and to help speed orders, their codes are:

100AOR80, "Princess Sandra's Infantry" (four variants)
100AOR81, "Princess Sandra's Infantry Command"
100AOR82, "Princess Sandra's Artillerists" (four variants)

On the cavalry, you'll hear "rumors" soon (if not already) -- or "info" from me here! Nic writes;

Alan Marsh is working on a female hussar…
However, I got my hopes up, and Nic corrected my unbridled enthusiasm. This "test piece" is, if I understood aright, both DISMOUNTED (like the "Duelists," aka "Pillow-fighters"), and, is meant as a LimDis "give-away" for a convention this next year. We'll get MOUNTED cavalry the sooner more folks besides me and two or three other folks sign up for the "Imagination Cavalry."
…if I can get more pre-orders for the 100 Club, then the figures will be made all the sooner…

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I would like to do heavy and light cavalry, but it all comes down to how much money I have to spend…

So far we only have six people interested in the project and two of them want cavalry but no foot [figures]. After a year of them being listed, I won't be rushing to make the figures based on that response.

So gents -- and any ladies present with an Imagi-Nation bent! Allocate some of that Christmas money to the Sandras!! wink

abdul666lw25 Dec 2012 1:43 p.m. PST

"I would like to do heavy and light cavalry, but it all comes down to how much money I have to spend…"
Eureka already has many suitable horses, so I guess the problem is that these, while separate pieces, are cast in the same mo(u)ld as their riders and thus cannot be produced separately?
Then it could become a mere question of compatibility of the riders with horses available elsewhere. Der Alte Fritz could advise about 'Old School' mounts; the new Minden riding characters are announced as available with different (designed for other Minden riders) horses so under friendly pressure Frank could perhaps sell separate horses?

Come In Nighthawk25 Dec 2012 3:08 p.m. PST

Eureka already has many suitable horses, so I guess the problem is that these, while separate pieces, are cast in the same mo(u)ld as their riders and thus cannot be produced separately?
I honestly do not know. I had thought I would let Nic enjoy a few days of the Holidays with his familial units and/or friends, and then after New Years, ask him that very question! I have an idea that I am fermenting that COULD, maybe, just might, help speed at least some Countess Sandra cavalry into production… if it could work… huh? But we'll just have to wait and see!!!! grin

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP01 Jan 2013 7:51 p.m. PST

It is the age old problem with miniatures ranges, sometimes prospective buyers hold off on purchasing ANYTHING until they have some assurance that the range will be complete (i.e. it has the basic combat arms in the range of infantry, cavalry and artillery).

That said, one of the artillery crew should be in a halter top or a torn bodice. That might help sell a few more miniatures. evil grin

skaran09 Oct 2013 11:38 p.m. PST

Still no news on these. Perhaps some female versions of their excellent Saxons would also be nice.

mashrewba14 Oct 2013 1:23 p.m. PST

Is it my imagination or are there all sorts of Eureka ranges that you can only find in the way you find objects in Tomb Raider?

abdul666lw14 Oct 2013 2:55 p.m. PST

Posted on the Alternate History Forum a description of the French Carabinières de la Reine by the mid-18th C.
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For the sake of credibility I had them in riding skirts (say, just like the successful Belle Epoque Hinterland Hussarettes). But I can't deny that knee-length breeches, so fashionable for men in the 18th C., are not without some appeal: YouTube link And they go very well with high boots

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Maybe an enterprising manufacturer would offer the two options?

abdul666lw22 Oct 2013 3:57 a.m. PST

For more 'exotic' female uniforms, among many possibilities:
- (historical) Catherine II's Amazon Guard

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To fight as cavalry (or doubling as dragoons like the French Mousquetaires) the girls would be more comfortable wearing a long fustanella over breeches just like male Greeks of the time:
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(images also suggesting appropriate secondary weapons).


- During the French Revolution several leading women asked for the creation of female volunteers battalions link. With the precedent of the Carabinières such female units may well have be raised, at least as garrison troops. Now imagine that the colorful (and short-lived) Ecole de Mars military school is made coeducational: just imagine David's 'exotic' (pseudo-Ancient) uniform with a riding skirt:

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Or even, given that the 'tunic' already looked like a mini-dress (it indeed elicited bawdy comments and mischievous rumors about 'bad behaviors' in the dormitories by then) and the whole silhouette not unlike that of the cantinières during the 2nd Empire, keep it unchanged -the girls would be at a great disadvantage is having to fight riding side-saddle.
By the mid-18th C. the cap would look more like a mirliton, i.e. narrower at the top than at the base.

Translated as 1/60 miniatures, any of these 2 would make great alt-18th C. equivalents to the Hinterland Belle Epoque Hussarettes hinterlandminiatures.weebly.com

Btw; nice images of (Revolutionary) Hussarettes and Chasseurettes on this blog:
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Sidney Fiddler Inactive Member22 Oct 2013 6:29 a.m. PST

I like them.

Top tip.
they would be even better with bigger bristols.

Musketier Supporting Member of TMP23 Oct 2013 4:53 a.m. PST

Sidney Fiddler – there's a separate board for that…
(although you almost have to ask Tango's permission to post there)

abdul666lw08 Nov 2013 12:58 p.m. PST

On the Eureka100 page  Female Imagination Infantry and Cavalry are at 100+ (Artillery lags behind): I understand that works really starts when the 150 mark is reached, so there's hope. Of course the 100Club is a quiet form of crowd funding, without the noisy widespread advertisement of Kickstarter / Indiegogo (how many potentially interested wargamers are unaware of the project?) so it's slower.

Btw I posted on the Alternate History Forum musings about an AH female unit, the French Carabinières de la Reine and its uniform in the mid-18th C., with two possibilities: one (semi)realistic -ceremonial outfit in riding skirt, one more 'imaginative' -battlefield unit in breeches, with high boots and breastplate in the cavalry role link

spontoon Supporting Member of TMP08 Nov 2013 9:57 p.m. PST

Perhaps some cuirassier to go with them?

Personal logo Narratio Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2013 8:58 p.m. PST

No cuirassier. Remember, as Abdul666lw noted, "their most essential features have to be emphasized".

abdul666lw13 Nov 2013 6:29 a.m. PST

The breastplate would be of the 'muscle' (well, not exactly muscle) type:
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abdul666lw15 Nov 2013 6:34 a.m. PST

With 'Pax Limpopo', Eureka already has a fanciful Victorian range, and also offers some cute 'Lady pirates' with tricorne: what about a set of 'Lacepunk ladies' link ?

Note that they would easily make 'steampunk' variants: just an alternate head with a suitable hat link and goggles instead of a tricorne, and alternate pistols…

abdul666lw17 Jan 2014 10:40 a.m. PST

The Eureka100 Female Horse & Musket Imagi-Nation infantry & cavalry reached 100+ link: Courage mes amis !
New uniforms are currently designed in expectation: link.

Recovered 1AO27 Jan 2014 4:17 a.m. PST

How do these compare to the Teddy Bear and Clock work soldiers?

Recovered 1AO27 Jan 2014 4:19 a.m. PST

Yes, I have a particular project in mind.

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