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DukeWacoan Supporting Member of TMP Fezian14 Nov 2011 12:17 p.m. PST

What would Austrian Freikorps wear during this period? Specifically I am looking at the Gyulai Freikorps that fought in Italy under Alvincy?

Also, I am assuming that "Freikorpsjager Mahoney" would be wearing normal Jager uniforms?

What can I use for Austrin Uhlans during this period? Specifically Meszaros Uhlans? Previously is was suggested Front Rank Prussian Bosniaks and Crusader "Late" Bosniaks.

Finally, what about Austrian Hussars? Specifically Erzherzog Josef, Erdody and Wurmers Hussars.


I don't mind swapping some heads, etc, as I don't need a lot of figures.

Altefritz15 Nov 2011 3:28 a.m. PST

Try here for the freikorps

link

and here for the Uhlans:

link

Regards
Fabrizio

Altefritz15 Nov 2011 3:31 a.m. PST

Sorry, I forget the link for the hussar:

link

The whole site is full of informations on the Austrian army, collected from various sources:

link

Duc de Limbourg Inactive Member15 Nov 2011 12:33 p.m. PST

According to Osprey "austrian Auxiliary troops" the Gyulay wore a black felt Csakelhaube hat, brown Gunjac coats with black central panel and yellow loops, scalet facings piped yellow , yellow buttons and natural red leatherwork.
The Mahony jägers are shown in an early form of korsehut and for the rest in a grey tyrolean coat, black leatherwork.

Hussars were in almost the same uniform as later, only the shako hadn't a visor and it was the ealier, stovepipe syle. Maybe a visorless grenze shako usable?

Lancers still had the open coat and the earlier form of chapka. Wouldn't use Frant Rank/crusader; they are too eastern looking and without shapka. Have a look at link
maybe simply use later uniform of lancers.

Franconicus Inactive Member19 Nov 2011 5:14 a.m. PST

from: Österreichischer Militär-Almanach, 1795

Mahony, Feldjäger:
1788 Dandini, 1793 Mahony
Mahony, Count Wilhelm, colonel; Sinzendorf, Count Rudolph, major
hechtgrau & stahlgrün (i.e. very dark green), yellow buttons

Gyulai, ungarische Infanterie:
1792 Gyulai
Gyulai, Count Ignatz, Obristlieutenant; Mattiesich, Georg, Major
brown & ponceau-red, white buttons

Meszaros, Ulanen:
1792 Meszaros (1797 Merveldt)
Meszaros, Johann, Obrist; Mathiasovsky, Ezechiel, Obristlieutenant; Brea, Zirkel and Avesani, Majors
grasgrün & ponceau-red, yellow buttons

Judging from the names ("Feldjäger, ungarische Infanterie…), I'd assume the typical uniform and nothing special.

mashrewba Inactive Member19 Nov 2011 11:46 a.m. PST

I looked into this recently -I wondered about using Front Rank and cutting the top of the hat off , filing it down and sticking it back on.

DukeWacoan Supporting Member of TMP Fezian05 Dec 2011 3:51 p.m. PST

I read in an Osprey that Mahoney Jagers had Tyrolian hats. I'm wondering if that would carry over into 1797?

Hat looks very much like this figure, although clothing is a bit different
link

My source also shows jacket and pants are a medium Grey with Dark Green facing.

The Gyulai Croatians seem to have moved from a Casquet to "
low cocked hat" at some point. Would that look like the Tyrolian hat above?

HappyHussar Supporting Member of TMP28 Jul 2017 3:03 p.m. PST

If you dig into this magazine PDF you will find the image you need for the Gyulai Freikorps and more:

PDF link

I have been searching for an image for this unit and saw this thread. Perhaps my input is a bit late but for anyone else looking to paint this unit .. well here it is :)

von Winterfeldt28 Jul 2017 11:49 p.m. PST

Nice magazine, however on Gyulai a lot of different immages are available, there was a very good TMP thread, I cannot find again, where we discussed this topic extensively, along with Dave Hollins, in research for Eureka 28 mm range.

Guylai – usually in the French Revolutionary wars is shown with kind of a brown dolman and yellow laces, tight fitting blue trousers.

As for Mahoney – I would also opt for hats in 1797

Prince of Essling Supporting Member of TMP29 Jul 2017 5:08 a.m. PST

Meszaros Uhlan
link
(1796) link
Archduke Joseph Hussars
link
Hussars Edody
link
link
Hussars Wursmer (1796)
link
link

Prince of Essling Supporting Member of TMP29 Jul 2017 5:58 a.m. PST

Not Gyulai Freikorps(but Croat Slavonian Sharpshooters – my mistake…) 1796
link
Also right hand figure as believe it is mislabelled:
link

Prince of Essling Supporting Member of TMP29 Jul 2017 3:21 p.m. PST

Also see discussion at TMP link

von Winterfeldt30 Jul 2017 1:29 a.m. PST

yes, thanks that was the link I couldn't find

Three Armies Supporting Member of TMP30 Jul 2017 2:06 p.m. PST

What scale are you doing these in?

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