"Revell Maquis Fighter" Topic

Not being a big Star Trek fan I've watched very little of Deep Space Nine where this model features. Apparently this is a 1/323 scale kit of a Peregrine Class Courier "upgunned" to produce a fighter. What I saw was a model just large enough to serve as a 15mm "scale" spaceship that had no discernible detailing that would reveal it is out of scale.

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So…what I'm thinking is to give it a paintjob that isn't white or cream or pale grey. Leave off the "wings" and add some landing legs to it and use it in spaceport scenarios. Any suggestions?

The reason why it has no "Scale" detailing is its actually a much smaller ship blown up by replacing the bridge.

I'd suggest modding it to match the smaller fighters shown in TNG and DS9 by replacing the cockpit.

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I haven't seen this model in the flesh so I can't say more than it might work.

@Psyckosama – I'm not really contemplating kit-bashing the model (except for removing the wings – both to reduce the footprint and because I suspect they will be useful somewhere later on) but simply painting it in as non-Star Trek colours as possible, and adding some landing gear so it can sit on the table. It comes with just a flight stand. There are a couple of places where I could add greeblies but it already has lots of surface detail.

I think it is a bit big for my personal concept of a fighter in 15mm scale (and in 1/323 perhaps they should be referring to it as a corvette) – the model is 334mm long. In terms of what I could claim the ship to be in any scenarios I'd think courier would be one possibilty, or scout ship or yacht. It isn't bulky enough for a cargo carrier.

This is the one I'm after:

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Dan

@CC – I've seen that one, and if I see one going cheap (the Maquis Fighter was £10.00 GBP on eBay) I'll probably grab one for parts but it doesn't particularly appeal to me. What I'd ideally like is something like Mel Ebbles UD41 Dropship as a civilian cargo hauler but card modelling doesn't appeal to me.

How would it work with 28mm figures?

This thing is actually a pretty big ship if you go by the Star Trek wiki (Memory Alpha). So, a 1/323 scale would sound about right for it.

I always wondered why they never had REAL Fighters (small craft, about the size of Cochrane's Phoenix) that sat between one to four people and was about the size of a B-1 bomber (or F-111 for one or two man fighters). You could have hundreds of these, each carrying a Phaser that was powered by a Capacitor (the equivalent of an "Ammo Belt" that limited the number of shots it was capable of), and then several hardpoints, each carrying a Torpedo.

Instead, the smallest ships they seem to use is this Largish "Shuttle" that has been heavily armed. If you look at the comparison photos of the Maquis Raider/Federation fighter and a Fed Runabout, you can see that the "Fighter" was about twice the size of a Runabout. And the Runabout had considerable room in it.

In the various episodes where we see the insides of one of these, they have a bridge (with four crew spaces), an Engine Room, a Cargo Bay, and at least one Stateroom of some sort. Transporters are mentioned, so they must have had a Transporter Room in there somewhere.

They did… there are two versions of the maquis fighter. The fighter version and the raider version. This is the raider version. Then there is the federation assault fighter which was shown in DS9 being used by both the Maquis and Starfleet which was also Fighter sized.

@RACDVM – I'd think too small really (not enough headroom), unless you said it was a fighter or bomber. And you'd need to figure out how the crew got in and out of it!

At 1:100 it looks like it would be about the same size as a space shuttle. Headroom doesn't look like it should be an issue given those dimensions.

This model that you've linked to is the actual Maquis vessel in the first episodes of Voyager (which is also available). I'd use it as a free trader. You could always clamp some cargo containers to it externally.

According to this:

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The Maquis Raider and the Fed Fighter are the same ship. The Maquis just armed them differently (and often more heavily)

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There… This is a "Federation Fighter" attacking a Danube Class Runabout.

It is much larger than the Runabout.

Although it does look to be a different ship than the Maquis Raiders, which seem to have a larger front section, and wider wings (but the engines look similar).

The Star Trek Encyclopedia II says that the two are different ships, while Star Trek: Memory Alpha says they are the same…

And why is this important to me again???

Years ago there was a 15mm scenario article in one of the magazines, i think it was WI that used this model as a dropship. Curiously enough i have been looking at thi subject myself for 6mm. I seem to recall there was a smaller snap fit version that would work in that scale, but alas i can find no trace. Is anyone able to confirm that my feeble memory isnt playing tricks?

@ Alex Reed – I don't really have much interest in Star Trek (I much prefer stories about the grubby people that the Enterprise would zoom past without noticing) but according one website the Maquis "Fighter" has a crew of 50 – I really don't see how you can call something a fighter in those circumstances. But that is rather besides the point of this thread!

@Commanderroj – while trying to find what scale this model actually was I discovered there are actually TWO other models of the ship.

Revell did a "pocket" model at 1/1276 (according to Starship Modeller) and a 1/1400 as part of a three model set. These would be 85mm and 77mm long respectively.

I think the profile is too thin (in 15mm I think you'd struggle to fit more than one deck in other than the bridge area) for a dropship or cargo vessel (at least as I imagine them). But, as you aren't modelling a real vessel, the rivet counters can go hang!

Funny I had the same idea. Bought this cheap on ebay. It's not in it's best shape. I hope the pics are of any help.

Paul you are brutal!

I appreciate the comparison pictures.

It looks like a great fit.

I think it would even work as a heavy fighter or bomber for 28mm.

Wow, I always wondered if that would make a good ship for 15mm and YES it will.

-Eli

It would definitely work for 15's. I don't think it would be tall enough to use for 28's, even as a one or two man fighter/scout ship.

Apparently now I need to find and buy one of these…

looks good! Need some conversion IMHO but seems decent.

Not the same without the wings though…

From my blog…

It looks great. Sooner or later I got to get me one of those too.

@ Alex Reed – I don't really have much interest in Star Trek (I much prefer stories about the grubby people that the Enterprise would zoom past without noticing) but according one website the Maquis "Fighter" has a crew of 50 – I really don't see how you can call something a fighter in those circumstances. But that is rather besides the point of this thread!

@Commanderroj – while trying to find what scale this model actually was I discovered there are actually TWO other models of the ship.

Revell did a "pocket" model at 1/1276 (according to Starship Modeller) and a 1/1400 as part of a three model set. These would be 85mm and 77mm long respectively.

I think the profile is too thin (in 15mm I think you'd struggle to fit more than one deck in other than the bridge area) for a dropship or cargo vessel (at least as I imagine them). But, as you aren't modelling a real vessel, the rivet counters can go hang!

Thanks @littlearmies. Now the problem is finding the smaller version. No luck so far. Obviously th epics show it is great for 15mm.

Runabout would work, but for my uses, I'd have to get with the Star Trek engines and do some other cosmetic work to hid its origins.

-Eli

@emu2020

Replace the nacalles with a set of wings and on the back of the pylon housing put some engines. Maybe swap the pylons and go with the whole "Forward swept wing" look?

Replacing the cockpit would also reduce the ST look a bit.

Another Runabout option would be this:

Playmates toy. Makes a larger, multideck ship

Kazon Torpedo: Tends to be less common than the ship; got used by 40K folks as drop ship.

The ship would make a great retro 'Flash Gordon' ship in 15mm…

Maquis: Always thought the same thing, but didn't think the wings needed removing. Still, looks good without 'em as well!

There was a Maquis in the Voyager three ship model kit, and that WOULD be a fighter.

Runabout: I still want to see it sliced in half. The fore finished as a shuttle,the aft rotated so the back is the bow of a dropship. Panoramic windows are very GW in my mind. ;->=

Big bundle of engine on the back, and good to go.

Doug

I've posted some pictures of the unassembled hull on my blog here:

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I think if you see the ship in the flesh you can see that there actually isn't much room for the 15mm (or 28mm) figures – I think if you took into account the amount of headroom a 15mm figure would need there would barely be room for more than one deck in most of the body of the ship. But definately room for a 28mm crew as a fighter bomber.

I like the runabout too – and could see using it as a cargo ship. I think the nacelles would have to go and a lot of greeblies added, and agin I'd paint in as non white a colour as possible.

I'm thinking of a mid-brown for the Maquis Fighter with some grubbiness added.